Next R4 Kernel coming soon!

[Rayder]

Thank you shaun for stepping in and taking care of the pointless OT banter.

I wonder if 1.12 took so long to happen simply because of SDHC. If they can't actually flash the chip in the R4, then pulling off SDHC compatibility will be an amazing trick. If they can manage it without flashing the chip itself, then they are a really talented group of coders.

Maybe it took so long because they never actually flashed the chip before (if it's even possible). Maybe that's what this update will be, a hardware flash, and they wanted to make sure it won't brick everyone's R4 to do the update to add this functionality.

At any rate, SDHC and fixes for the games that need fixed are all I really care about.

Alterations to the GUI would only serve to render the hundreds of skins for the R4 worthless, so I'm not really for that.
While SDHC isn't a real priority for me at this point either, it will serve to future-proof the card for games that will inevitably be released as larger ROMs later down the road, ASH being just the first.

Fixing the non-working games would be what I would concentrate on if I were the R4 team. By non-working, I mean the ones that either don't work at all or require the ARM fix before they function. Other than that, everything else I just consider icing on the cake.

One thing I can say for sure though.....I have not regretted my decision to buy an R4.....and to hook up a few of my friends and relatives with them. I may have goofed with the SCminiSD and its shoddy GBA performance, but the R4 has yet to fail me with all the games I care about.

People can say all they want about other flashcards and/or bad-mouth the R4 all they want, but the R4 team has proven to be truly dedicated to the hardware they produced and have kept their customers happy since the card was released with frequent updates and new features. How many other flashcards can really, truly say that? I daresay very few. Even if SDHC on the R4 proves to be impossible, that will be only the first time the R4 team didn't deliver on a promise. Still a damn good track-record.

 

[perimbean]

Hi all! It's nice to see an active forum with views/opinions and information regarding hitech toy gadgets.

I'm shopping for my first adapter and was reading up about R4 and it's benefits (me no fanboy or anysort)....

But reading through this thread...we somehow got sidetracked...ok back to topic.

I do hope to see what's new in the upcoming kernel v1.12 for R4.

I'm new to DS-Lite and was very happy to have found this forum after being introduced by a friend.

Patience is a virtue. Let's wait for the release of v1.12 kernel for R4.

Cheers!
perimbean

 

[arctic_flame]

[...snip...]
Maybe it took so long because they never actually flashed the chip before (if it's even possible). Maybe that's what this update will be, a hardware flash, and they wanted to make sure it won't brick everyone's R4 to do the update to add this functionality.
[...snip...]

Is it even possible to flash the chip on the R4?

What Chip is it?

Does anyone know?

 

[ackers]

Jeez I didn't mean to stir so much attention with my post saying:

"Are the guyz who update R4 Chinese or American?

Do Chinese even undertand what SDHC is? lol"

I thought the people who made R4 were Chinese as I believe that is where it's manufactured. Also, they obviously used a translator to get the English on their website which shows that they aren't American (unless they have very bad grammar and spelling).

Well whatever. Be them American or Chinese, I don't care.

The bit about saying do Chinese even understand SDHC was just intended as a joke. I was just suggesting they thought it stood for something else...

Sorry for taking it the wrong way

 

[ubersk8kid]

I so hope they do this for M3 Simply and M3 Lite (though it probably wont happen, but i got my fingers crossed

)
I really dont want to buy a whole new slot-1 card, and if they only make updates for M3 Real and totally forget about M3 Simply (i dont think that will happen) Im just going to buy a Cyclo Evo.

I really want to see if they can really pull this SDHC support off. That will be really cool!

Was the R4 not able to connect to the Wii before?

 

[edd722]

I just hope this is also for the m3 simply, and I could care less for SDHC... but if it's true its gonna be nice to know I can upgrade my card some day..., anyways I just want the Wii compatibility and the game fixes and "puff" R4/m3simply is just the perfect flash for slot 1.

 

[funem]

While I am not going to hold me breath about the high capacity card support ( though it would be more than welcome as you can get a 6gb card for about £40 ) It's nice to know there is still life at R4's HQ. With regards to the dev team not being able to pull off the SDHC support, and the fact people say they know because they have tested it themselves, what you have to remember is that, you don't have the full working knowledge of the card, without a full working knowledge and without access to the new update, no one is sure how this is going to be pulled off, so until then EVERYONE is just as much in the dark as each other and no-one outside the dev teams knows for sure.

The fact that the forums have been down and not brought back or moved to a new location ( unless I am mistaken ) got me worried about the future support for the card, once the update is released, SDHC support or not, will prove very reassuring. Though they should really put an effort into restoring the forums and not relying of other community sites to provide support.

Well it's now approaching the end of the week so time as they say will tell.

 

[shakirmoledina]

R4 truly is the best card... and it is very promising to see R4 releasing so many excellent updates that infact were the features for other cards to release which is most commonly Cheat codes.
I really think that M3 will also get the update for this.

 

[rhyguy]

R4 truly is the best card... and it is very promising to see R4 releasing so many excellent updates that infact were the features for other cards to release which is most commonly Cheat codes.
I really think that M3 will also get the update for this.

i dont think its the best card, but it has the best price:quality ratio

also, i think it would be 2.0, as it adds many uber features to it...

 

[zykopath]

yea it probably would/should be kernel 2.0 since the will be the whole SDHC update and such... but doesn't really matter... all R4 fans (including me) just want the update soon... think about it... a possible 32 GB space for my DS... won't that be sweet?

 

[4saken]

And hardly anyone has considered how expensive a 32 gigabyte card would be. By the time it drops to an affordable price, the DS will be gone

 

[Doggy124]

its price maybe same as NDSL lol.

 

[madlobster]

And hardly anyone has considered how expensive a 32 gigabyte card would be. By the time it drops to an affordable price, the DS will be gone

Even so, MY DS won't be gone. You need to think about the future, not now. One day, I'll have the entire set of DS ROMs on a few 32GB cards. It's not like everyone stops playing games that are discontinued, and future versions of Nintendo portable systems may be backward-compatible, like the GBA is with GBC and GB games, which people still often play. The GB games can be played by GBA systems 18 years later. Don't you think that it's possible that I can play DS games on my R4 on some DS-compatible system 18 years later in the year 2025? And wouldn't 32GB SDHC cards be dirt cheap sometime before then? I'm also looking forward to putting all my GBA games on less than 2 32MB SDHC cards.

 

[jincongz]

Lets see: $10 for 512, $17 for 1gb (deal extreme)
I'll take a wild guess, maybe $10 max per GB? 32*10. 320.

but technology gets better. Hard drives are only $0.4 per GB (looking at 1tb hitachi). $0.4 is only $12.8

even at $5 per GB, $60 isn't too bad... eh?

edit: oops... tired, after doing my math homework... pooped. 160.

Ok... 2.5 per dollar then. 80?

 

[biz387]

Lets see: $10 for 512, $17 for 1gb (deal extreme)
I'll take a wild guess, maybe $10 max per GB? 32*10. 320.

but technology gets better. Hard drives are only $0.4 per GB (looking at 1tb hitachi). $0.4 is only $12.8

even at $5 per GB, $60 isn't too bad... eh?

32x$5 = $160 lol

 

[Upperleft]

WTF 32 GB'S ?!
"even my pc hasn't got this much space XD"
sweeeet XD

but it will cost hell lot !!

i think 8 giga's is enough

congrats r4 owners

 

[Barta]

I just bought 2 6Gb cards just in case the update arrives

and I paid only € 52.95 a piece (that's cheaper than 3 2Gb cards)

 

[qjopera]

Hrm. I do agree with Jeromel, but I trust the R4 team to a certain extent, they have always delivered everything they said they would, and I respect them for that. They deliver what they offer.

- Sam


Yeah, and now I'm going to do a little comparison. Remember that sucky cart...what was its name? Ah...yes! The DS-X. Right. Now, the "team" behind it told us that they would have an advantage over other carts DUE to the FPGA built into the DS-X. Now, they never programmed a firmware capable of executing that hardware and using it to gain an advantage to boost their sales and such.

Imagine a different scenario now. You have a top of the range computer, with the latest specs available on the market. Imagine if the manufacturers of your graphics adapter, processor, etc...didn't release updates for their products and left it on default Windows drivers. Sure, they WOULD work, with a tiny advantage, but someone with a good average computer AND firmware/hardware updates to their computer would benefit and even beat your powerhouse.

And this resumes the R4 situation. How? Well, if you didn't notice already, the DS-X is the superior cart - in HARDWARE terms. No other cart has the FPGA, which was what made the DS-X cost that much.

Now, the R4. Well, no FPGA here, just a normal BUT excellent cart, which their developers, explored with the best firmware updates possible and with things like cheats that weren't promised when the cart came out into the market last year.

Now compare this to the computer situation above and tell me what the similarities are. Ah. The R4 is the inferior cart (in hardware terms, REMEMBER!), BUT it can and did EASILY beat the DS-X a long time ago due to the developers support with firmware updates.

That being said, and with all your comments in account, I'd say we /might/ (notice the emphasis on might) have SDHC support on the R4. Sure, there are people who know highly of how the R4 internal hardware works, but remember, the team knows more because they ultimately program and release firmware updates for their (superb) cart.

they do have a programmable widget engine that allows you to make your own widgets to then create apps that require the power of the FPGA so you can create ds-x specific ground breaking homebrew. Plus with open source flash carts out there you can easily evolve the ds-x using EZV source code or turn it to an external processing engine for the acekard RPG using acekard source code to allow the ds-x and RPG to converge and communicate with each other. You can even use the DS-X's FPGA to run or attempt to rum a symbian rom on windows mobile phone using some form of hardware emulation or linkage via a cluster app via wi-fi don't know if possible but if it can be done I will get DS-X and the ACEKARD RPG, and try to revive the dead neoflash MK3 via acekard's open-source firmware and use then all together for different purposes.

 

[qjopera]

get over it big deal about the microsd coming out of cyclo evolution at least it comes out.

 

[funem]

Tick Tock, Tick Tock

Time is a ticking
Me lips I am licking
All of this waiting
Is what I is hating
Hope when it come out
Gives me reason to shout
but me time away I'm pissing
cause I bet SDHC gonna be missing