Hardware New Desktop

It will probably cost slightly more to build your own but you make sure the parts you are putting in are good ones: over the last however many years I have been fixing computers for people I have lost count of how many graphics cards, cpus, cooling systems, power supplies (a bad one can and will often take a whole system with it), network cards/modems..... I have had to replace or mod (new fans to new bios) to get working properly. This is not only from the fly by night builders (ironically they are usually better) but big names like dell, time, tiny, HP, sony.....

As for actually building it computers have become fairly idiot proof to build over the last few years (10 years ago I might have been able to insert a power lead to the motherboard upside down: not any more, it is marginally above square peg in square peg hole these days) and provided you read the instructions (mainly as some newer graphics cards have two power inputs or an extra one).

As for graphics cards I am yet to be convinced by directX10 so the 7xxx series is looking nice still.
 
Erm, when i build my desktop myself+the items listed up there(except the keyboard) its about $1k. But without building myself, and the total(adding everything up there) is about $830~900(tax,etc.).

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Case - LOGISYS Computer Area 51
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811148030]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811148030[/url]
DVD Rom - Sony NEC Optiarc Black
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827101131]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827101131[/url]
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128059]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128059[/url]
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz
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RAM - G.Skill 4GB(2 x 2GB)
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231145]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231145[/url]
Graphics Card - EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB
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Hard Drive - Western DigitalCaviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM 8MB
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OPTIONAL(Didnt make my mind up yet)
Rosewill RP500 ATX12V v1.3/ EPS12V 500W Power Supply
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I'm not sure on the Power Supply. I don't get why i need one anyway. I mean whats the difference between the one that comes with the Computer(Case. It comes with it) and this one? Other then the 500W. More power, more better?
 
Find a case without supply a use the difference to buy a decent one.

Power supplies are a crucial part of the build, you get a bad one and at worst you can take out everything and at best you will end up with an unstable machine (and the last thing you want is a blue screen in the middle of an encode/game). Have a read: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/08/09/pc_power_supplies/

As for the case from the first review I saw there:
" Cons: Only one sata power cable. had to purchase a 4 pin to sata adapter. case only came with one fan so i purchased a 120 mm fan for the rear."

Mboard: only 1 16x PCIe slot but unless you want to go SLI/crossfire you have no worries.

RAM: I not sure 4 gigs is needed yet but OK I guess, only rated at 800MHz versus your processor at 1333MHz (not a problem when it comes to doing it but performance may take a slight hit). My suggestion is get 2 gigs of quality ram: I run high end games and video all day long without virtual memory and have yet to have memory issues. Granted I do have a gig of video ram to offset that though.
 
You only need 2GB of RAM, and the 8000 series performs MUCH better in DX9 compared to the 7000 series.

Oh, and all the links for your list are broken. (You have to quote the post, then copy the links)

And power supplies are not optional, they are just as important as the RAM or mobo.
 
@offtopic84 I can not help but feel comparing a top end higher series to an entry level lower series a slight bit unfair. Also those options were quite demanding.

About the motherboard: it is fine but if you want to add two graphics cards to sue in SLI/crossfire (essentially giving double the power although that definition is a bit crude). Otherwise a nice board and it should serve you well.

The case: aesthetics are what matters (airflow is a thought though but most have it halfway there) until you hit power supply country. The one it comes with is not really suited to anything much more demanding than a basic desktop which means you would be wasting your money.

What people are trying to say is you can not buy cheap stuff and expect it to perform fantastically, you can buy cheap stuff and have it surf the internet though.
 
Well, the 7600 isn't a very good card. With Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect coming out, why not have a good video card? The rest of the system is high-end.

If you want to go cheap, the X1900/X1950 series is a better choice. My X1950XT (insanely overclocked) can play everything out on High
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_200...3&chart=318
 
SavageWaffle said:
Wait are theses Graphics Card good?:
[url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814500006]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814500006[/url]
A Zotac ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800GT 512MB
Alittle big expensive but eh, anything for my Desktop to fun great games.

209 after rebate, good price. That is the 2nd or 3rd best video card out, and best for the price.

You do not need 2.

QUOTE(DrKupo @ Mar 1 2008, 10:57 AM) -Deleted-

It's not cheap when you can get a top of the line PC for $800.
 
offtopic84 said:
It's not cheap when you can get a top of the line PC for $800.

Top of the line is yorksfield, and that alone is $1000 bucks. Spec me out a machine with the same processor/video card/etc from the MP and you win. But you can't, as the prce would only be slightly different.
 
SavageWaffle said:
Wait so i need 2 Graphics Cards?
And i found a new case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811144151

I might go with that since the Area 51 Desktop is abit to big and will stand out(i have a place which is connected to my Desk.)

You should get something simple for the case. Who knows when all those flashy lights are going to wear off?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119106

I quite like this case.

SavageWaffle said:
Wait are theses Graphics Card good?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814500006
A Zotac ZT-88TES3P-FCP GeForce 8800GT 512MB
Alittle big expensive but eh, anything for my Desktop to fun great games.

If its expensive to you maybe you should look at other cards.
The Radeon HD 3870 or the Geforce 9600GT are both good choices at below $200

QUOTE(DrKupo @ Mar 1 2008, 08:53 PM)
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You should really stop doing that...
You're just asking for a flamwar.
 

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