Missing space/games after using Tinyformat

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  1. 7MinutesDead
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    I had .cia games installed on emunand, and recently used tinyformat to unlink the nands. Now my games are gone (as expected) but the space is still used up on my SD card as if they're still there. Does anyone know what's going on and could help me out?
     
  2. Conn0r

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    Could it be that you still have the .cia files on your sd card.
     
  3. EpicLPer

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    You could use something like WinDirStat to scan your SD Card for big files.
     
  4. JJTapia19

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    In the Nintendo 3ds folder located on the root you should have some folders with random names. The one that occupies more space is the one that the nand you formated used to store cia games data.
     
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    Cia files were already deleted before doing this.
    I see the folder mentioned above, can I transfer the files over to the other folder? Or do they have to be deleted and the .cia reinstalled?
     
  6. JJTapia19

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    No that would not work. Each nand have a specific encryption. You need to reinstal the cias.
     
  7. tivu100

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    You have to back up the Nintendo 3D folder before you use Tiny Format. Because Tiny Format, formats!!!

    Tiny Format just leave the NNID data and some other data intact/still linked. Not your installed games.
     
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    Yeah I backed up my SD card before doing this, though I'm not really sure what for. If I'm reading JJTapia's post right I can't bring back anything.

    Alright, thanks for the help so far. I'm assuming it's safe to delete entire folder that has my installed games right?
     
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    With Tiny Format, if you have backup of the Nintendo 3DS before formating : 1. If Tiny Format on EMUNAND -> Sysnand will work with the back up Nintendo 3DS folder 2. If Tiny Format on SYSNAND -> EMUNAND will work with the back up Nintendo 3DS folder.
     
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    Gotcha, appreciate the clarification
     
  11. kratoz29

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    I didn't got this... I've backed up my data before using tiny format in Emunand (cause fbi installer thing) how do I get my data back in emunand?

    My games shows up in Sysnand but not in Emunand.
     
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    Unlinking using Tiny Format = making EMUNAND different to SYSNAND while not removing NNID data (and some other data someone better know about this than me). Which NAND you use Tiny Format on => settings, games, apps... will be wiped => need to be reisntalled.

    Unlinking NANDs you should think it as now you can run 2 Operating system on the same PC.
     
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    So, if I used it in my Emunand all is gone isn't?

    But about the space... I just need to reinstall the CIA? or should I delete the Nintendo 3DS folder and reinstall the CIA for a fresh install?

    Thanks in advance.

    PS: What's better? using tiny format or using Nintendo's format tool?
     
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    I don't understand what you want to do here.

    Tiny format is preferred as you don't have to link your NNID again on either SYSNAND or EMUNAND.

    What should be done is: back up Nintendo 3DS folder -> tiny format emunand or sysnand (preferably emunand for you don't want to re set up menunhax in most case again on sysnand) -> set up setting son either EMUNAND or SYSNAND -> restore Nintendo 3DS folder and merge if being asked.
     
  15. kratoz29

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    But if I format my emunand then my activity log and that will be wiped won't be?

    If that'd be my main system then I think is recommended to wipe sysnand.

    Unfortunately for me I've wiped the emunand and my stuff is gone I've a backed up but as the games didn't showed up in the emunand then thought they were gone too so i just deleted the stuff of the 3DS folder and reinstalled the CIAs, but of course the savegames are missing.

    Btw you've mentioned that if I use tiny format in the sysnand then MenuHax is gone.

    I didn't used that, to enter to my rxtools I used to access with the profile thing and after formatting the emunand, not sysnand I couldn't access anymore using that exploit, I've needed to reinstall it.
     
  16. Procyon

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    False the games are intact on sysNAND after tiny format, just not the games installed with emuNAND
     
  17. kratoz29

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    But does they work?

    As my sysnand was too low I've never could opened a file, so I supposed CIAs installed in emunand won't work in sysnand.

    But of course I couldn't assure that.
     
  18. Procyon

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    If installed on sysNAND yes.
     
  19. tivu100

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    Dude, He was asking about EMUNAND. See what I quoted. So Tiny Format EMUNAND, you need to re install apps/games on EMUNAND while the NNID not being unlink from Nintendo server.
     
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    K you said it wrong, but that doesn't matter