Making a New PC budget $600

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Sep 19, 2009

Making a New PC budget $600 by Santee at 2:33 PM (3,343 Views / 0 Likes) 47 replies

  1. Santee
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    Well considering that my current laptop is crap and is shared by my whole family I've decided to buy myself a new PC and my parents told me that they would pay for half of it so I've decided to save my money up to get one.

    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131594
    Computer Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811517004
    Cpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115215
    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136283
    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231282
    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817517003
    Graphic Card: 2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102860


    I already have a keyboard, mouse, speakers, and Moniter so I don't need those. The $600 in the title is only what I had when I started this thread ignore it.
     


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    $600. Wow, tha's a small budgwt. Your computer is good but damn does the videocard "suck" (exuse use of slang). Why didn't you pick up an RAM. They are necessary for a computer. Get at least 4GB of DDR2 RAM. For browing, and playing non resource intensive games your computer is good. Just change the video card. Nvidia Geforce 9800! Anything!

    Sorry for one MESSED up post.
     
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    I Didn't pick any ram becuase I wan't sure is was sticking to those parts and it's not a gaming pc so is $600 really that little and yes that video card sucks but I didn't know what to pick for a non gaming computer. Oh and to be clear I'm asking if these parts are bad or if there are betters ones ect.
     
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    For me to evaluate it better I need to find out what motherboard you picked.
     
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    [​IMG] I forgot to put in the motherboard sorry I'll edit the first post.
     
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    well $600 USD is a decent budget to make a gaming rig, my pc cost $700 without the 22" monitor and it's pretty decent. I'll help you out with your build today sometime, got things to do right now.
     
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    Thanks I'll be waiting and what to do you mean by gaming rig I'm not going to be using it for gaming.
     
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    Thanks but isn't the video card and ram a bit much for a non gaming pc.
     
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    You might want to specify a monitor size. I like my 22" T220 HD from Samsung, but you might want a larger size or a smaller one.

    Just noticed, you said it was nongaming? Well then you could probably go with a 46XX series card or JUST go with the integrated graphics. The integrated graphics has a benchmark here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-78...et,2381-11.html Just don't go with the 8600 as the 46XX series from ATI are just a bit more and doesn't require any extra power or anything like that.

    For RAM, people seem to usually go with GSkill DDR2 800mhz 2X2GB it seems. BUT, I noticed you picked a Phenom II X4 with AM3 support and an AM3, so you could go the way of getting DDR3, but I'm not particularly experienced in picking DDR3 ram out. You could also get an AM2+ motherboard with a bios upgrade. The AM2+ motherboards will usually support DDR2 while a AM3 only motherboard supports only DDR3. 4GB of RAM is where you'll want to be, even if you're not gaming I suppose. I've been fine with 2.5 GB of slower(533/667mhz?) but I kinda wish I had a bit more for Vista/Win7.

    The motherboard is totally fine with the processor you picked, though you gotta get DDR3 ram clocked at 1066mhz+. Something like this RAM I suppose: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....esktop%20Memory
    I don't know if the price is good or not though, but since it's DDR3 it's a BIT more expensive than DDR2. People also seem to recommend the Crucial memory in the little people also got corner of the motherboard page.

    The motherboard he picked supports Dual Channel Memory, though I don't know if that means he can't USE the memory. That memory APPEARS to be made for the i7 motherboards, but I'm not totally sure.

    Don't forget about a PSU either, which will probably be around the 500 watt size? Not sure about this. DO NOT, cheapen out on the PSU though.
     
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    Alright I updated the first post with the hardware you guys gave me but I'm still looking for a different Graphics/Video Card since the one sephi gave me looks like a gaming one correct me if I'm wrong through. And I just realized that I need a PSU so I found this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817152028 . My monitor is 16" which is fine for me since my laptop one is 15". So I wouldn't need a graphic card since the motherboard comes integrated with one already.
     
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    Even though the graphics card Sephi gave you is primarily for gaming. That doesn't mean it annot be used for other stuff and work well. It's a good, cheap graphics card.
     
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    Revolutionize I know that the Graphics card Isn't only used for gaming but for what I want wouldn't the integrated one be fine and yes 16" is pretty small but I'm used to my laptops 15" so It's not a big deal.
     
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    Okay. A integrated graphics card would work well for non-gaming tasks. I'm still shocked! 16''. Sorry, not used to anything lower than 20''. And remember no PHOTOSHOP on the computer unless you want a total M...e....l...t...d...o...w...n.
     
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    I've been building PCs since I was 14. I'm 32 now. Here are some lessons I've learned.

    1. If you're not gaming, don't worry about a graphics card. Integrated video works fine. Integrated video + DVI out is even better.

    2. You might want to consider getting an Antec case. They come with Earthwatts 380 PSUs, which are fine for general computing needs.

    3. Do you live by a Frys? If so, buy your motherboard there. In general, the mobo will be your #1 source of hardware problems. Frys has a great mobo warranty.

    4. Some computer stores or online stores offer CPU-Motherboard combos. I was able to get my current processor (Intel Core 2 Duo, E8400) and motherboard as a combo for less than what the CPU normally cost. (FYI: I bought it at Frys.)

    5. Use Slickdeals.com or Fatwallet.com to find deals on the most expensive items, if possible.

    6. Don't buy from Newegg if you can get away with it. They are good, but they are restrictive in their return policy. Instead, look on Amazon.com. You'll get free shipping, no sales tax, and a forgiving 30 day return policy. They pay for return shipping, and unlike Newegg, they don't charge 15% restocking fees for computer parts. I only use Newegg when I have to.

    7. Avoid piecemealing your PC together. Try and get all the parts at once. Otherwise, you could end up with stuff that isn't compatible, you won't know about it until after your return policy expired, and you won't be able to return it.

    8. Don't build your own PC. Buy something pre-built. PC building is fun up to a point, but hardware problems are a pain in the ass to diagnose. Home repairs also get expensive, fast.

    Let's say 2 years later, your mobo dies. You have to go out and buy another mobo. Then you find out your current CPU and RAM aren't compatible, so you have to buy all new components. Then you realize that they phased out your graphics card bus, and you need a whole new graphics card. Oh no! You just realized that your PSU can't supply enough juice to that new graphics card. Better upgrade that too! Shit! That new mobo has a problem with its SATA controller, and now every ISO image you copy around on the HDD gets corrupted! You better stat all over and get a new mobo! All the while, you have your girlfriend/wife/kids/dog yelling at you, asking you why your computer broke down AGAIN.

    The next PC I buy will be from a store where I can just take it in and tell them to fix it. LOL
     
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    What do you mean meltdown does photoshop require that much power that it would cause my computer to crash. IBNobody The nearest Fry's is 2 states away from me so unless you meant online then no I can't buy from them and the reason I'm trying to make one is so it's cheaper I guess and I'll look into amazon.
     
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    I would think photoshop would work alright with his quad core he's getting. Wasn't it only as of recently that they started adding in GPU support for some acceleration? I don't see that much of a problem with using Photoshop with an integrated chipset. Besides, what kinda of serious work could he be doing in Photoshop? If he isn't working on some gigantic image, it's be fine I would think.

    Aside from that, You definitely want to try a larger monitor, somewhere around 20"-22". It's great for multitasking/having more window space. I used to have my browser maximized all the time but it's great to have a bit more room for everything else.
     
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    Well since alot of people are telling me different things I have one question what's better AMD or Intel and is Newegg as bad as IBNobody makes it seem.
     
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    Either one is fine IMO and since you don't want a serious gaming rig or anything of the sort and are fine with the integrated chipset. I assume you aren't overclocking either since you didn't include a cooler or anything of the sort and are probably using the stock cooler. I don't know of any cheap Intel quad cores compared to AMD's quad cores.

    I seem prefer AMDs motherboards since it's only like 80 bucks and you get a nice amounts of inputs and outputs for the back panel, like HDMI, HD Audio, a nice amount of USB ports, Firewire, and eSATA, though you could just get some PCI Firewire/SATA controllers or something I suppose. Though I haven't bothered to look at motherboards in a while so I don't know if Intel has their own comparative chipsets with a nice set of inputs/outputs. AMD ALSO has a better integrated graphics chip compared to Intel, which makes them GREAT for home theaters and the such(I myself am using the 780g chipset for a home theater and don't even need a graphics card for it). On the other hand, you could get some kind of trashy Intel graphics and then add on a cheapy graphics card.
     

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