Hacking Mail box bomb

[hvckz]

as jacobeian says

and

at the hackmii site:

This exploit reuses (and abuses) some of some Nintendo’s Wii Messageboard functionality.

You will need:

A Wii running System Menu 4.3 (E/U/J/K)

A SD(HC) card with some free space

Your Wii’s WiFi MAC Address (available from your Wii’s system settings). This is needed because the Wii will only accept messages addressed to its specific MAC address.

A few minutes of your time

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what if the wii refuses to use the usb2ethernet adapter MAC to match mail header?
and still it use the system settings wifi MAC?
and even though that you have 2 MAC address, still the wii use the wifi MAC to encrypt the mail?

if this is the case, i don't have any choice but for an standalone app.

 

[Jacobeian]

If something external is encrypting the letterbomb, I would think the wii would try both mac adresses. The external thing will only know the mac adress of the ethernet adapter connected to the network. If that's the usb2ethernet, it will use that one's mac for the encryption.

The mac address is not used for encryption but for identification.
Maybe messages that go through the ethernet adapter are identified with another MAC address but that's not the point
The point is that you need a valid MAC address for the message to be correctly identified so they used MAC address that is accessible on every Wii through the system menu setting, that's all...

But as you see, I am using "I think" as well. It's not good enough. We need a couple of people testing things out to know for sure,
or we need someone who created the exploit and who reverse engineered the decrypting system.

I don't even know if the mails are sent encrypted or if they are just encrypted to store them on the sd card. Again, "I think" the first as that would explain why a key is used that can be found over the network.

Off course it's encrypted, just like anything on your SDCARD. It's also probably signed so that only your Wii can read it but we know there are fakesigning exploits. That's not the point of this exploit though, and I am not sure to understand what you are trying to achieve with your thinkings ?

I notice 2 request on this forum for an offline solution. If the usb2ethernet mac would work, you have your offline solution. (I know you would have to purchase the usb2ether)

Huh ? i don' get what you are trying to say. You already have a perfectly viable solution, just put an auto-generated message on your SDCARD and open it, that's it. What would purchasing an ethernet adapter has to do with this ?

QUOTE

They might maybe be payed for every hit that reaches their website, but again, that's just me thinking..(and writing down what I think)

That's not thinking, that's usual conspiracy theories at its best.. there are no ads on this website, how would this generate any money ?

 

[obcd]

Huh ? i don' get what you are trying to say. You already have a perfectly viable solution, just put an auto-generated message on your SDCARD and open it, that's it. What would purchasing an ethernet adapter has to do with this ?

Some people here are requesting an offline solution. Me, personally, I prefer that as well.
It gives you the option to go to your friend who doesn't have internet and mod his wii.
Also, the internet is dynamically. What if the website suddenly dissapears within a week?
If an ethernet mac adress would work, it would provide such a solution.

QUOTEThat's not thinking, that's usual conspiracy theories at its best.. there are no ads on this website, how would this generate any money ?

I don't know, and to be honestly, I don't care.

What I am trying to achieve is the difference between:

1. Yes I can mod your Wii, but I will need your Wii mac adress.
My wii what?
It's probably best if I come over and write it down myself. I will have to come again afterwards for the mod.
2. I will insert this sd card in your wii, and I will connect this ethernet device.
Within a couple of minutes, you should have the HBC up and running on it.

Maybe I agree, case 1 is better. It makes you look more like a hacking expert.

 

[Jacobeian]

What I am trying to achieve is the difference between:

1. Yes I can mod your Wii, but I will need your Wii mac adress.
My wii what?
It's probably best if I come over and write it down myself. I will have to come again afterwards for the mod.
2. I will insert this sd card in your wii, and I will connect this ethernet device.
Within a couple of minutes, you should have the HBC up and running on it.

Maybe I agree, case 1 is better. It makes you look more like a hacking expert.

Ok I see better what your point is, you wan to apply this on other's Wii without too much effort.

And if it's really just to help friends from time to time, I don't think it's so much complicated to ask him to go into his Wii settings and write down a few numbers
Seems to me it would be much more an hassle to buy an ethernet adapter JUST for that, sound more like an investment to me, in which case...

... if this makes things more complicate for people making a business of softmodding other people's Wii, I actuality think it's a good thing

 

[Pattonfiend67]

pune is so fucking greedy that twiizers beat him to it, LOL...​

 

[obcd]

... if this makes things more complicate for people making a business of softmodding other people's Wii, I actuality think it's a good thing

Please, grow up a little.

What's wrong with asking a little money for a mod. You put your time in it.
There also is the risk of bricking things, I mean, not during the mod but afterwards.
I can ensure you they will come back to you, and no, they haven't tried to install an ios....
It came all by itself, probably you didn't do your job well.
The backup nand.bin on disk? We never used it. Were we suposed to keep it?
Can't you just use another backup?
Gee, I thought you were smarter than that...

Sounds familiar? One of the reasons why I wouldn't try to make money doing such.

If someone comes painting my house, I have to pay him as well. If I don't want it, I can paint it myself.

Even linux is not so free as you would think. Firms ask money for giving support to get things running.
It's still better than firms asking money for giving support to resolve the bugs in their own software. (Trust me, it happens.)

Thanks Tueidj for your answer. I think (there we go again.) you have the inside technical knowledge.
(I was going to write "I believe", but it's pretty much the same...)

 

[Jacobeian]

... if this makes things more complicate for people making a business of softmodding other people's Wii, I actuality think it's a good thing

Please, grow up a little.

What's wrong with asking a little money for a mod. You put your time in it.
There also is the risk of bricking things, I mean, not during the mod but afterwards.
I can ensure you they will come back to you, and no, they haven't tried to install an ios....
It came all by itself, probably you didn't do your job well.
The backup nand.bin on disk? We never used it. Were we suposed to keep it?
Can't you just use another backup?
Gee, I thought you were smarter than that...

Sounds familiar? One of the reasons why I wouldn't try to make money doing such.

If someone comes painting my house, I have to pay him as well. If I don't want it, I can paint it myself.

Even linux is not so free as you would think. Firms ask money for giving support to get things running.
It's still better than firms asking money for giving support to resolve the bugs in their own software. (Trust me, it happens.)

I don't need to grow up because I still have some ethic, people like you are quite fast are thinking themselves as "grown up" or "business men" if you prefer
but I simply don't consider modding a wii as an actual "work" and I would consider myself as an asshole if I were asking money for that because the effort is very limited (lol at comparing this with painting a house...) and everything needed is made available for FREE by more deserving people ... I have yet to find what makes this different from "Unlock Your Wii"-style websites stuff

Anyway, I don't really care about your justifications and I really have no desire to debate about the subject, I was actually just giving my opinion and perfectly knows it won't change people's little business.

 

[FireGrey]

why the need for offline solutions?
cause in most cases people without internet dont have 4.3

 

[shortz1994]

why the need for offline solutions?
cause in most cases people without internet dont have 4.3

that doesn't make sense, the new wii's are 4.3.. even if they are not online, some updates come on game disc's.

 

[XFlak]

why is this being discussed in the mail box bomb thread? Wait for pune to release his version of the exploit and see if it works offline before asking for offline support in this thread.

and if u want an offline version of letter bomb, just wait for pune to release his version; I can't make promises, but I suspect it will have offline support (and be ModMii friendly).

If u can't wait for pune's version... tough. I highly doubt anyone @ TT will bother modifying how it works to satisfy a handful of people (and that includes me). But if you must voice your request, do it in the right thread plz.

Spoiler

It's kinda funny how I can moderate these forums without moderator status (or at least I try to, lol)

 

[hvckz]

hahaha!
there you go! Mr. Non-Moderator!

 

[obcd]

I was actually just giving my opinion and perfectly knows it won't change people's little business.

I was just giving mine as well. It's based upon 25 years "fixing things" experience for people.
Some feel like fixing their computer isn't work either, since you like to work with computers....
You might have read between the lines that I don't run such a little business and the reason why behind it.
I can perfectly understand people ask a little money for doing it, if they do a decent job,
and give you the backup of your nand on cd, and keep a copy themself. They should also give you some explanation
about what can and can't be done. In that case, they provide some "added value" to the exploit. That's the difference
with the websites asking money for the tools that are available for free from their creators. Those don't offer any
"added value".
If your meaning about that is different, I can understand, but nobody has obligations to make use of services
that aren't free. It's a free choice.

Sorry Xflac, before you threw me off the Forum...
The question I was having is if you are going to add support for this Mail box bomb in modmii, or if you are going to wait for the Pune release?
They sure keep you busy.

 

[shortz1994]

well, i don't think pune is going to release his now, that TT an tidju (the rat with ears,yes i know it's brain). bent pune over an didn't even use vasoline.

i guess there is no honor among hackers. (well atleast some)..
so i will offer this for pune if he wants it. an can finish it. i still have the "leak".
even though i've use it. an it works for all 7 of my gc games. it has a play clock on it. i still have the "pass code an file". so if you want it. hit me up pune. i had much respect for TT, until they did this to pune. now i have none.

 

[kylster]

it has a play clock on it. i still have the "pass code an file". so if you want it. hit me up pune. i had much respect for TT, until they did this to pune. now i have none.

This sounds like your talking bout the GC SD loader that was leaked. Don't know the name.

What exactly is the point if TT released it befor Pune? Didnt XFlak say Punes will be or should be more ModMii friendly? Remember in the ends its all about simplicity in mind, that's what the people will flock to.

 

[retKHAAAN]

@obcd

The captcha on the TT site keeps it from being "Modmii friendly". There is really no need for a captcha unless they were specifically picking on Modmii though as it is the only "all in one downloader" that would have tried to access it. Just have to wait and see if Pune still releases his.

 

[tueidj]

You know it's funny, I don't remember anyone getting upset when the original PS Jailbreak was reverse engineered and the exploit became free for anyone to use. In this case the exploits may not even be the same, can't say for sure since pune's currently the only person with access to both of them.

There is really no need for a captcha unless they were specifically picking on Modmii

And here we go again, modmii's the centre of universe and everyone's out to hurt it... the captcha is there so only humans can use the page, preventing any proxy sites being set up that would charge people for the service.

 

[XFlak]

modmii's the centre of universe

Glad to see you're finally out of denial, lol, jks jks.

Seriously, there are no bad guys in this wii drama. pune found an exploit, but wanted to raise some donations before releasing it... nothing wrong with that. TT got wind of what he'd accomplished, and recreated the exploit... nothing wrong with that either. There are no bad guys here... someone on the previous page just said they lost all respect for TT cuz of what they did to pune? Come on, I bet even pune still has respect for them, so why are you being so harsh?

I got nothing but respect for both parties involved... that being said, I think pune should be acknowledged in letter bomb's credits, not just in a disclaimer.

I still hope pune releases a ModMii friendly version of the exploit... and I'll make sure he's recognized for it in ModMii's credits and that people have a way to donate to him (and others) directly through ModMii. Speaking of donations... TT's donation webpage is still down

 

[kylster]

This will make my job easier but I don't charge for soft-modding a Wii, it's more or less a hobby of mine; but if I do ever charge, I will plan on donating at least half cause of the simplicity you guys give us. Still who charges for soft-modding? I would pay for that dual nand boot ps3

LoL

Thank you GiantPune

 

[ciris]

Thanks to XFlak & Giantpune! Much respect!

 

[XFlak]

I appreciate the honorary mention, but in this thread all thanks should go to giantpune