Hacking Discussion LayeredFS Backup Loader vs TX Backup Loader

[Zumoly]

With LayeredFS, you can boot eShop games. But less stable.

Looks like you found that one feature I was hinting!

 

[Zumoly]

As TX OS is being discovered it looks like it's not perfect out of the box:
- It seems it cannot play the new card format (hence newer games like Sushi striker). Can LBL play it?
- As stated by @Thetoto LBL can play eShop titles while TX BL can't. Will you change your vote?

 

[Thetoto]

And the most important thing for me : We will be able to add mods in games like in Mario Odyssey or Skyrim soon with Atmosphere/LayeredFS.

 

[LysergCooltyp]

- As stated by @Thetoto LBL can play eShop titles while TX BL can't. Will you change your vote?

It shouldn't influence anyone's vote that bought the pro since you can swap out the payload and use LBL instead if you want/need to for eshop titles etc.

 

[maruuu07]

You know with a proper file manager with renaming and npdm editing feature could literally enable you to redirect 100 titles to a donor title tested to be 100% compatible right?

Thats like comparing the first generation IPhone to the Microsoft Zune

 

[a7mag3ddon]

As TX OS is being discovered it looks like it's not perfect out of the box:
- It seems it cannot play the new card format (hence newer games like Sushi striker). Can LBL play it?
- As stated by @Thetoto LBL can play eShop titles while TX BL can't. Will you change your vote?

Won't change my vote.. Because I'll just change the SD lol.

1 card for TX and 1 for games not working with it.

TX FTW

 

[VashTS]

i spent 2 hours getting LayeredFS set up. managed to it to boot, but not loading any games.

i'll bet that my SX will be about 5 minutes of set up (after file copy is done).

for now, the more polished software wins. in the long run though - i guarantee the open source solution will be better. eventually it will be like 3DS, just a matter of time and development.

 

[Thetoto]

Won't change my vote.. Because I'll just change the SD lol.

1 card for TX and 1 for games not working with it.

TX FTW

So, you can change your vote to "Both"

 

[Zumoly]

i spent 2 hours getting LayeredFS set up. managed to it to boot, but not loading any games.

I beg to differ! Sure the process is not noob friendly but once you get the hang of it you can easily send all of your fave titles in one transfer! As for the compatibility you just need to patch the main.npdm file and rename the folder with the donor title right on your SD card.
Now if we had an awesome homebrew to allow this...

 

[VashTS]

I beg to differ! Sure the process is not noob friendly but once you get the hang of it you can easily send all of your fave titles in one transfer! As for the compatibility you just need to patch the main.npdm file and rename the folder with the donor title right on your SD card.
Now if we had an awesome homebrew to allow this...

turns out the applications i used weren't successfully "auto-patching" the title id. the process is quite cumbersome right now and i knew it would take me at least an hour or so to read up and grasp all the concepts. i got it working finally this AM but man is it rough to set up.

 

[smf]

- It seems it cannot play the new card format (hence newer games like Sushi striker).

There is going to be a cat and mouse game for cartridges from now on as they aren't just dumb devices. Each game could have logic required by the game embedded into the cartridge. Each game could end up needing to be cracked.

- As stated by @Thetoto LBL can play eShop titles while TX BL can't. Will you change your vote?

I expect TX to put out an update with eshop loading. I am intrigued what Nintendo will do about eshop piracy.

 

[Zumoly]

I expect TX to put out an update with eshop loading. I am intrigued what Nintendo will do about eshop piracy.

Do you think TX will continue providing support for their OS if it gets cracked?
I don't think Nintendo will be able to do much! As long as people don't start trying to play online with pirated copies of course! The harder part will be to dump those digital games.
There is one title in the wild by BBB though...

 

[WuskyDingo]

as it might have one feature TX one has not!

You're referring to the loading of eshop rips, right?

 

[Zumoly]

Alright guys I have one more reason to stay with LBL!
When you actually make your backups "layered" friendly you save some space by retaining only necessary files to launch the game! Meaning LBL is better than TXBL in terms of size optimization.

 

[longxa762]

Alright guys I have one more reason to stay with LBL!
When you actually make your backups "layered" friendly you save some space by retaining only necessary files to launch the game! Meaning LBL is better than TXBL in terms of size optimization.

What are you talking about it is still the same size since you have to replace the whole game with another one.

You means having multiple folders and files with random name is better then a single boot.dat and a bunch of Renamable.xci?

 

[Zumoly]

What are you talking about it is still the same size since you have to replace the whole game with another one.

You means having multiple folders and files with random name is better then a single boot.dat and a bunch of Renamable.xci?

You clearly didn't get this thing going did you?
A 15 GB file might end up being 7 GB (Monster Hunter XX)!
Take the xcitrimmer app for instance: it deletes useless (empty) data making you save space.
Well the same thing applies to LBL when you decrypt stuff.

 

[longxa762]

You clearly didn't get this thing going did you?
A 15 GB file might end up being 7 GB (Monster Hunter XX)!
Take the xcitrimmer app for instance: it deletes useless (empty) data making you save space.
Well the same thing applies to LBL when you decrypt stuff.

SX can run trimmed rom, your point is?

 

[Zumoly]

SX can run trimmed rom, your point is?

Ah! Didn't know that!
Then we're even!
Also for the LBL supporters: https://gbatemp.net/threads/lbl-tips-tricks.508000/

 

[kamesenin888]

Does breath of the wild and splatoon work on lbl? no
Do they work in TX os? yes

 

[Zumoly]

See what I did there?

Does breath of the wild and splatoon work on lbl? not yet
Do they work in TX os? yes but without dlc!