Homebrew Just a General Discusssion

[solress]

You can actually inject code via hardmod so if you were to do that you might actually be able to exploit the eshop

 

[Gaming796]

You can actually inject code via hardmod so if you were to do that you might actually be able to exploit the eshop

RIGHT!!!!!

 

[hacksn5s4]

Hardware in the sense?

dsi ware has access to nand but an exploitable game that does not need a save to be exploited needs to be found in order to do it with out having another cfw 3ds idk if twl ds games have that but there are some twl games with exploits maybe those could be used but idk if they have nand access

 

[solress]

RIGHT!!!!!

I remember someone trying to exploit eShop a while back, and he got into the homebrew launcher with arm9 access but nobody cared about it because it was harder than regular hardmod

 

[osaka35]

I think you're right. But again, what if we make a clone server?

I mean, you won't have legit signed stuff, because that requires knowing and having a way to duplicate nintendo's signing and validation.

buuuuuut maybe something like an eshop version of that certain iso site? where you're on custom firmware and can just download straight to your 3ds? and it installs just like eshop? but that's just asking to get shut down, so probably not?

 

[Gaming796]

I remember someone trying to exploit eShop a while back, and he got into the homebrew launcher with arm9 access but nobody cared about it because it was harder than regular hardmod

Do you know who he was? I'll try and ask him.

 

[solress]

Do you know who he was? I'll try and ask him.

I don't remember, but it was a guy on a certain ISO site

 

[Gaming796]

I don't remember, but it was a guy on a certain ISO site

Oh... Poor him... Nobody appreciated his work, when his work could've helped a lot...

 

[Wolfy]

Oh... Poor him... Nobody appreciated his work, when his work could've helped a lot...

I think it has more to do with the fact that most people won't get a hardmod or can't due to the price and if the particular hardmod is even more difficult, then what's the use of following up on it.

The basis of trying to get Arm9/Arm11 access is that you need an exploit, something that is not going to become apparent by looking at eShop, but at actual games themselves to create something like Ninjhax.

Or something that actually requests access from the device itself and gets it, like System Settings perhaps? Similar to ROP back in the day still possible to inject a DS Profile into it.

 

[Gaming796]

I think it has more to do with the fact that most people won't get a hardmod or can't due to the price and if the particular hardmod is even more difficult, then what's the use of following up on it.

The basis of trying to get Arm9/Arm11 access is that you need an exploit, something that is not going to become apparent by looking at eShop, but at actual games themselves to create something like Ninjhax.

Or something that actually requests access from the device itself and gets it, like System Settings perhaps? Similar to ROP back in the day still possible to inject a DS Profile into it.

Yeah. System Settings has complete control. More control than what eShop has. I think exploiting System Settings is what will lead to success.

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But it's gonna take months to exploit System Settings, and it might be around 2017 by the time we exploit it completely.

 

[hacksn5s4]

Yeah. System Settings has complete control. More control than what eShop has. I think exploiting System Settings is what will lead to success.

Well another way is to find an exploit in a dsi ware game that does not require a hacked save

 

[Wolfy]

Yeah. System Settings has complete control. More control than what eShop has. I think exploiting System Settings is what will lead to success.

It's not that easy though, that's the point, Homebrew devs have been working almost nonstop to find exploits, and though they've been releasing many secondary exploits, there's only two reasons as to why a public exploit for arm access hasn't been released.

1. They haven't found anything because it's not that easy as many exploits have been patched over the 3DSe's life cycle.
2. They haven't released it due to Nintendo possibly releasing one final update around the time the new 3DS games come out to kill off all exploits/A9LH uses.

 

[Gaming796]

Well another way is to find an exploit in a dsi ware game that does not require a hacked save

But DSiWare has equal control as System Settings does. So if you don't have a DSiWare Game, then you'll have to spend some money getting it, whereas if you have exploited System Settings, you don't need to pay for anything.

 

[solress]

But DSiWare has equal control as System Settings does. So if you don't have a DSiWare Game, then you'll have to spend some money getting it, whereas if you have exploited System Settings, you don't need to pay for anything.

you can actually inject DSi ware games without downgrading

 

[hacksn5s4]

But DSiWare has equal control as System Settings does. So if you don't have a DSiWare Game, then you'll have to spend some money getting it, whereas if you have exploited System Settings, you don't need to pay for anything.

with an exploited dsi game you can downgrad native firm then use the normal downgrader and it will work some guy who made a bunch of exploits in games for the 3ds is trying it

 

[Gaming796]

It's not that easy though, that's the point, Homebrew devs have been working almost nonstop to find exploits, and though they've been releasing many secondary exploits, there's only two reasons as to why a public exploit for arm access hasn't been released.

1. They haven't found anything because it's not that easy as many exploits have been patched over the 3DSe's life cycle.
2. They haven't released it due to Nintendo possibly releasing one final update around the time the new 3DS games come out to kill off all exploits/A9LH uses.

A member "Shubshub" messaged me that the Devs have already made an exploit but they won't release it due to Nintendo & the fact that it'll lead to further piracy.

 

[hacksn5s4]

A member "Shubshub" messaged me that the Devs have already made an exploit but they won't release it due to Nintendo & the fact that it'll lead to further piracy.

eh i don't believe him he pmed me to it sounds stupid

 

[Gaming796]

Here's the link.

 

[Wolfy]

A member "Shubshub" messaged me that the Devs have already made an exploit but they won't release it due to Nintendo & the fact that it'll lead to further piracy.

1. Of course it'll lead to piracy, that is the life of an exploit, even if it was released in a way that would not allow pirated games to be installed and then further played. Another dev who was pro-piracy would definitely find a workaround for it.

2. Still probably waiting for the final update, which I can almost assure shall come with so many new games coming. So you better keep your 3DSes with WifiOff for December x3

 

[hacksn5s4]

1. Of course it'll lead to piracy, that is the life of an exploit, even if it was released in a way that would not allow pirated games to be installed and then further played. Another dev who was pro-piracy would definitely find a workaround for it.

2. Still probably waiting for the final update, which I can almost assure shall come with so many new games coming. So you better keep your 3DSes with WifiOff for December x3

well patching its not gonna stop pirates if they really want to do it and have an updated system they will buy a new one or hardmod then downgrade