NeoDraven said:
I think the whole "Oh noez! Mah lazr is gunna b burn'd out" fearmongering all stems from the PS2 hacking community. I remember all the frustration I had with both PS2 Phat and Slim systems; those lasers were notorious for crapping out way before they should.
Plus, a lot of the people whom are now hacking their Wii are teenagers or in their early twenties. These are the same kids who never got a Super Nintendo on Christmas morning, and by the time they started playing video games, they sharpened their teeth on PSX or N64. Then, they get on the internet and listen to all of the old horror stories about Dreamcast and PS2 lasers and they apply the same untested adage to every system they encounter from then on.
I still remember people back in 2005, trying to tell horror stories of their PSP laser burning out and not reading UMDs anymore, blaming it on shoddy Sony hardware and referring to the PS2 issues.
It's a safe bet that 95% of the people on this board, discussing lasers and the life-cycle of DVD-reading hardware, have never actually owned a system which had a burned out laser. They're all just parroting hearsay to sound like they know the topic.
This IS the internet.
Yeah, there are reports of the Ps2's lasers dieing.
Hell i only just hacked my ps2 yesterday and i already know that.
But no claims of a wii's laser crapping out.
Id like to say something after reading this entire thread.
Isnt it obvious the ISP's dont care?
If every ISP cancelled every service for every little punk who got caught torrenting theyd be out of buisness or atleast lose substantial profit margins.
They don't want to cancel your service, nor do they like the fact that companys like the ESA run around with little ninja spys stealing your ip info by assimilating themselves inside a swarm.
Its just not right no matter what your downloading.
I could probably give you a rough percentage of cases that actually get to the termination of internet stage. Id take a stab at about 1%.
At this point your options are simple.
Ignore the letter, or call if they require it and say that you had no idea what was going on and you dont know who downloaded the file or even if it was someone you know, and now that you do, it definatley wont happen as your going to strengthen your security.
If they do however block your service at that point, which i dont see much cases of it actually happening on a 1st or 2nd notice just sign up to a new provider.
I mean cmon its not rocket science.
And if your still doing the same shit, after being warned once or twice then you deserve to be disallowed from the internet, the less retards like you the better.
anyway take that rough guestimation from before and apply the same logic with say, the amount of people who actually get sued.
Let's put this new % at 0.10%
Now lets take a rough guesstimation of how many of these people actually lose there case because the company could actually prove it was them.
Lets say 0.01%
If you disagree with any of those percentages then ok, i cant prove them or anything, im making guestimations based on the amount of cases ive seen over my 9 years of computing.
Think logically, has anyone in this thread said OMG I WENT TO JAIL FOR THIS!
No, the worst that has happened has been termination of internet service, and i dont think i even remember reading that happening to anyone in this thread.
On the subject of Torrents.
Dont use them.
They are the most unsafe way to share files over the internet.
Its worse then walking into a police station with a stack of burnt cd's and trying to sell them.
YOU WILL GET CAUGH EVENTUALLY.
No matter what anyone is trying to tell you about proxys, encryptions, peer blockers all that shit is only ways to help prevent, none of them are full proof. NONE OF THEM ARE FULL PROOF.
The safest way to download is directly. Megaupload, Rapidshare hell any of the big downloading sites.
Have you ever heard of anyone getting a ESA / DMCA / MPAA notice for something they downloaded from MU, RS or any of the other biggies?
Because i sure as hell never have.
Ill say it again DONT TORRENT EVER!
Torrenting is dieing, its a useless format without support.
No one wants to torrent, its slow, its unpredictable, its unsafe and most of all its a pain in the ass.
Why would you waste your time searching for a torrent, finding a good one, then hoping it has enough seeds, then waiting for your speed to pick up, then hoping the swarm stays at roughly the same speed till you finish.
Its stupid.
Direct is so much better, find the download with google or a searcher or forum *megadownload.net megauploadgforum.net google.com for christ sakes*
And if you cheap basterds cant even afford to pay the 30 cents a day for these services then you dont deserve to even have nice things.
We are all riding the system, we sit here saving thousands upon thousands of dollars on games and accessability *homebrew games/programs that extend a machines usefulness* Yet you complain when you might cop a fine of $100?
I mean im no angel, but i like to think of myself as a thoughtful consumer, i have ATLEAST 10 legit games for every system i own. Excluding the DS, which i can hardly even find 10 games i like *im not saying all ds games are shit thre just not fitting of my style very often*
If someone takes me to court atleast i have some form of proof that i buy games, i mean if you buy 1 game every 4-6 months atleast you have proof you are a continued consumer. It strengthens your story of innocence, i mean why would you buy games if you could just get them free right?
Lastly i just want to say
IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE CONSEQUENCES THEN DONT PIRATE!
IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE LOSING YOUR INTERNET THEN DONT PIRATE!
IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE BEING SUED THEN DONT PIRATE!
IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE POSSIBILITY OF JAIL TIME THEN DONT PIRATE!
DONT DO THE CRIME IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME!
Im going to repost this image from earlier in the thread.
Take a quick read.
If the retards at 4chan can understand that torrenting is bad then why cant you.
I dont think i have anything left to add to this.
so ill just end it here -----> o