GCN Is Xeno chip really needed?

[nashismo]

Ok so that's my question.

I finally got my Gamecube from Japan with the Gameboy Player included! It cost me bit, and then I had to pay custom tax %&#%$ anyway I got this gamecube to play GBA games.

Is the Xeno chip really needed in my case? I will be getting the SD2SP2, a Memory Card, and I have a backwards compatible Wii to acess the Gamecube Memory Card. Would I still need to install the Xeno chip in order to launch Swiss or GBI player etc?

I do have the Xeno chip, and I would probably install it, I am just wondering if this is even needed to run homebrew in my specific case. Also anyone know if I can change the Japanese to english in my Japanese console? Cheers to all and thank you for reading!!

 

[Shadow#1]

Ok so that's my question.

I finally got my Gamecube from Japan with the Gameboy Player included! It cost me bit, and then I had to pay custom tax %&#%$ anyway I got this gamecube to play GBA games.

Is the Xeno chip really needed in my case? I will be getting the SD2SP2, a Memory Card, and I have a backwards compatible Wii to acess the Gamecube Memory Card. Would I still need to install the Xeno chip in order to launch Swiss or GBI player etc?

I do have the Xeno chip, and I would probably install it, I am just wondering if this is even needed to run homebrew in my specific case. Also anyone know if I can change the Japanese to english in my Japanese console? Cheers to all and thank you for reading!!

Save exploit negates the need for a hardmod

 

[nashismo]

Save exploit negates the need for a hardmod

Really? But maybe the Xeno chip could help me making my japanese Gamecube region free/english, or Xeno chip does not have this features? I am sorry to bother you with this

Thank you Shadow!

 

[Shadow#1]

Really? But maybe the Xeno chip could help me making my japanese Gamecube region free/english, or Xeno chip does not have this features? I am sorry to bother you with this

Thank you Shadow!

Xeno GC is just a drive chip has no user menu

 

[nashismo]

Xeno GC is just a drive chip has no user menu

Ok, thank you shadow! I wasted money for nothing I guess, but doesn't matter, it was cheap Thank you again Shadow!

 

[Shadow#1]

Ok, thank you shadow! I wasted money for nothing I guess, but doesn't matter, it was cheap Thank you again Shadow!

It's cheap for the Xeno GC because the original author released the code publicly eons ago

 

[nashismo]

It's cheap for the Xeno GC because the original author released the code publicly eons ago

I also much prefere playing using the sd card on the SD2SP2, because well, where in the hell are you going to buy Mini DVD's these days

 

[gamesquest1]

not sure if im mistaken here, but you will still need an exploit game too afaik https://www.gc-forever.com/wiki/index.php?title=Booting_Homebrew

there is quite a few available, so you should be able to get one pretty cheap, but you will need a Japanese game, if you have the chip anyway and your fairly confident with the install process you should be able to just install it and make yourself a Swiss boot disk keep it in the console and always boot straight into it

while your there, you can mod the gamecube to be NTSC-U which would change the menu to English
http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/game-cube-region-switch/

 

[Lumstar]

Really? But maybe the Xeno chip could help me making my japanese Gamecube region free/english, or Xeno chip does not have this features? I am sorry to bother you with this

Thank you Shadow!

Xeno (like other chips) makes games region free, but it doesn't change the system language.

A number of Japanese games have compatibility issues if played on a Gamecube not configured for Japanese.

 

[Zonark]

Xeno is region free plus if you dont want to install it you can add a switch to your cube that will change the regions between us and japan but not pal

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Really? But maybe the Xeno chip could help me making my japanese Gamecube region free/english, or Xeno chip does not have this features? I am sorry to bother you with this

Thank you Shadow!

Xeno Chip is region free like mentioned above but you could install a switch that would allow your console to play japan and usa but not pal if you want to butcher your cubes shell. I would install the chip personally you get much more use out of it.

My setup is Xeno chip, Swiss disk permanently in system, and SD2SP2 with a 256gb micro SD formatted to Fat16 for quick access then all the imports I have I can still play and I can still back them up quickly

 

[Kwyjor]

While we're on the subject, is it possible now to use an ordinary DVD burner (with a mini DVD-R, of course) to make a disc that will boot on an unmodded Gamecube? I've seen videos like this that suggest Datel's secrets are common knowledge, but I guess with the ease of using exploits and the relative scarcity of mini DVD-Rs, no one really bothers?

 

[nashismo]

not sure if im mistaken here, but you will still need an exploit game too afaik https://www.gc-forever.com/wiki/index.php?title=Booting_Homebrew

there is quite a few available, so you should be able to get one pretty cheap, but you will need a Japanese game, if you have the chip anyway and your fairly confident with the install process you should be able to just install it and make yourself a Swiss boot disk keep it in the console and always boot straight into it

while your there, you can mod the gamecube to be NTSC-U which would change the menu to English
http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/game-cube-region-switch/

Thank you so much! That's super helpful. Thank you.

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Xeno (like other chips) makes games region free, but it doesn't change the system language.

A number of Japanese games have compatibility issues if played on a Gamecube not configured for Japanese.

But wouldn't this work the other way around too? As in using a Japanese BIOS, some US games could have compatibility issues? Thank you for you feedback guys, you are really great

 

[A0211]

While we're on the subject, is it possible now to use an ordinary DVD burner (with a mini DVD-R, of course) to make a disc that will boot on an unmodded Gamecube? I've seen videos like this that suggest Datel's secrets are common knowledge, but I guess with the ease of using exploits and the relative scarcity of mini DVD-Rs, no one really bothers?

Hey man did you ever get an answer for this? I’m seeing the sd2sp2 adapters that come with a boot disc which just looks like a plain mini dvd with the software written, I don’t have a xeno chip and was wondering if it’s actually this easy or if I’m just p*ssing in the wind, thanks in advanced

 

[A0211]

While we're on the subject, is it possible now to use an ordinary DVD burner (with a mini DVD-R, of course) to make a disc that will boot on an unmodded Gamecube? I've seen videos like this that suggest Datel's secrets are common knowledge, but I guess with the ease of using exploits and the relative scarcity of mini DVD-Rs, no one really bothers?

Hey did you ever get a definitive answer for this? I’m about to buy one of the sd2 adapters and it comes with this Swiss boot disc that looks just like a plain mini dvd overwritten with the software. Is it actually just this easy now to play backed up games without a xenochip or am I just p*ssing into the wind

 

[raging_chaos]

I’m seeing the sd2sp2 adapters that come with a boot disc which just looks like a plain mini dvd with the software written, I don’t have a xeno chip and was wondering if it’s actually this easy

You still need a modchip to be able to run the Swiss DVD that comes with SD2SP2. There is no direct boot method to boot backups the way it was done with the Dreamcast.

Xeno GC chip + Swiss boot disc gets you playing games a lot faster than Save game exploit on a Memory Card + Retail disc.

 

[toxic9]

You need a modchip to boot the mini DVD-R.

 

[tech3475]

Hey did you ever get a definitive answer for this? I’m about to buy one of the sd2 adapters and it comes with this Swiss boot disc that looks just like a plain mini dvd overwritten with the software. Is it actually just this easy now to play backed up games without a xenochip or am I just p*ssing into the wind

Check the listing, of the 2 I looked at you still needed a modchip installed.

AFAIK the only options are either a pressed disc (i.e. a save exploit, AR, etc.), a modchip or an ODE.

 

[smf]

While we're on the subject, is it possible now to use an ordinary DVD burner (with a mini DVD-R, of course) to make a disc that will boot on an unmodded Gamecube? I've seen videos like this that suggest Datel's secrets are common knowledge, but I guess with the ease of using exploits and the relative scarcity of mini DVD-Rs, no one really bothers?

AFAIK datel figured out how to master a DVD in a similar way to Nintendo, it doesn't mean you can burn it though.

IIRC there are laser cuts on the surface of the disc and the position of the cuts is encoded on the inner ring.

 

[Kwyjor]

Hey did you ever get a definitive answer for this?

There was more discussion about this over in https://gbatemp.net/threads/has-there-ever-been-a-homebrew-launcher-disk-for-gamecube.539608/ , but no, no one has yet to clarify exactly you can't burn a mini DVD that will boot on an unmodded Gamecube. (The news would probably be widely reported if it ever happened.)

 

[A0211]

Reallly appreciate the help folks, so just to make sure Ive got it right, so far the only way for me to play backups on an unmodded GC is with an official action replay media launcher disc+SdAdapter kit loaded with Swiss along with an optional SD2SP2 adapter for extra storage?