Hacking Is AutoRCM still useful?

[BaamAlex]

I also used ofw+autorcm and weren't banned. But who knows what nintendo can really detect and what not

 

[ZachyCatGames]

I don’t own a jig.
Also I like having my bct pubkey start with 69.
So it’s a win win.

 

[Rosalia_Rossellinni]

Is the battery drain a common problem? I haven´t see a mayor impact on the battery life. It sounds like suggestion to me, short span battery, that will be Wii U.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Is the battery drain a common problem? I haven´t see a mayor impact on the battery life. It sounds like suggestion to me, short span battery, that will be Wii U.

The "problem" is that if you accidentally leave it in RCM (which is a bit easier to accidentally do with autoRCM) the battery can drain down to a very low level. It's not great for the battery, but you can usually just leave it on a charger for a couple hours and it'll be fine.
There's a bunch of mitigations for it nowadays, so it's really not a problem anymore.

 

[Rosalia_Rossellinni]

The "problem" is that if you accidentally leave it in RCM (which is a bit easier to accidentally do with autoRCM) the battery can drain down to a very low level. It's not great for the battery, but you can usually just leave it on a charger for a couple hours and it'll be fine.
There's a bunch of mitigations for it nowadays, so it's really not a problem anymore.

I see now, I remember reading something about that, I will keep learning more of the subject, thank you.

 

[Maupiti]

Is the battery drain a common problem? I haven´t see a mayor impact on the battery life. It sounds like suggestion to me, short span battery, that will be Wii U.

AutoRCM is a temporary state of the switch, once OFW or CFW launched, there’s absolutely no impact on drain battery, as @ZachyCatGames said, to avoid “problems “, you just need to properly shutdown your switch ( or leave it in sleep mode, as the device was build this way, like any other modern device, just don’t forget to check battery if not using for more than a week).

 

[Rosalia_Rossellinni]

AutoRCM is a temporary state of the switch, once OFW or CFW launched, there’s absolutely no impact on drain battery, as @ZachyCatGames said, to avoid “problems “, you just need to properly shutdown your switch ( or leave it in sleep mode, as the device was build this way, like any other modern device, just don’t forget to check battery if not using for more than a week).

Yes, I am using it too! I always make sure to leave it in sleep mode, also I try not to let the battery drop to red, I haven´t see the need to turn it off for a while, still taking care of it.

 

[Maupiti]

Yes, I am using it too! I always make sure to leave it in sleep mode, also I try not to let the battery drop to red, I haven´t see the need to turn it off for a while, still taking care of it.

As I said, switch battery is like any other modern battery, don’t let it go “too often “ under 40 % of charge. And even if the switch is “off”, the battery will drain.. So ?

The only reason of this thread, (I think ), is that people are still wondering if Big N can detect RCM mode when you’re online and therefore ban you (well, your switch...).

And when you think about the AutoRCM, it does the same “thing “ than a chip : a “ kernel panic” to get access.

You can have “entry points “ via browsers, sure, but “basically “ to hack a system, it’s always because you generate a “sort of KP”.

 

[Draxzelex]

I do not understand why nobody would NOT use AutoRCM. It prevents the need for a jig so you can save wear and tear on your Joy-Con rails as well as preserving fuses. There are basically no downsides to AutoRCM aside from not having a convenient way to send payloads on the go but everyone either has a phone and USB cable or a dongle anyways.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

I do not understand why nobody would NOT use AutoRCM. It prevents the need for a jig so you can save wear and tear on your Joy-Con rails as well as preserving fuses. There are basically no downsides to AutoRCM aside from not having a convenient way to send payloads on the go but everyone either has a phone and USB cable or a dongle anyways.

If you don't have a way to push payloads on the go it might be nice to be able boot ofw if you're traveling or something. Then at least you can play legit games.
Edit: For anyone with this specific problem I'd recommend a rebug chip.

 

[Draxzelex]

If you don't have a way to push payloads on the go it might be nice to be able boot ofw if you're traveling or something. Then at least you can play legit games.
Edit: For anyone with this specific problem I'd recommend a rebug chip.

I mean, where are you more likely to play online: at home or on the go? You're not guaranteed to always have Wi-Fi wherever you go and the places that do offer free Wi-Fi don't always have great speeds. Like I said, if not a dongle, everyone has a phone and USB cable.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

I mean, where are you more likely to play online: at home or on the go? You're not guaranteed to always have Wi-Fi wherever you go and the places that do offer free Wi-Fi don't always have great speeds. Like I said, if not a dongle, everyone has a phone and USB cable.

Yeah but if you're on a train and you have 5 legit games downloaded and 45 ""back ups"" at least if your switch goes flat before you can get to a charger you can continue to play the 5 legit games after it's charged again. Not everyone will have the ability to push payloads on the go. Iirc iPhones need to be jailbroken to push payloads.

 

[Draxzelex]

Yeah but if you're on a train and you have 5 legit games downloaded and 45 ""back ups"" at least if your switch goes flat before you can get to a charger you can continue to play the 5 legit games after it's charged again. Not everyone will have the ability to push payloads on the go. Iirc iPhones need to be jailbroken to push payloads.

Do you understand what you are describing is still an incredibly niche scenario? Look at it like this; if you have to come up with such a hypothetical situation in order to make AutoRCM seem NOT useful, then that implies it is useful in every other scenario. Yes obviously AutoRCM won't be useful 100% of the time but 99% is still pretty damn close.

 

[lokomelo]

Jigs take little space, so it will not affect the portability, but jigs, even the well made ones, are still pieces of metal scratching the rail to create a short circuit on your system. It is a controlled short circuit, but still is one.

So I am more for Auto RCM.

 

[BaamAlex]

Iirc iPhones need to be jailbroken to push payloads.

And not everyone has an iphone. Android devices doesn't need root for that. And for the case someone is on the go with autorcm, has in mind to take a dongle and a powerbank with her/him. Which you should always put into a bag when you travel. Doesn't matter if you use cfw or not.

 

[CompSciOrBust]

And not everyone has an iphone. Android devices doesn't need root for that. And for the case someone is on the go with autorcm, has in mind to take a dongle and a powerbank with her/him. Which you should always put into a bag when you travel. Doesn't matter if you use cfw or not.

I don't get your point. Sure not everyone has an iPhone but 50% of people (at least in the UK) do have an iPhone. Not everyone wants to carry a bunch of stuff around in their bag either. Like Drax said it is a niche scenario but I don't think it's so niche that it's insignificant. Not everyone is a cfw power user who is willing to spent money on injectors, if I had to guess I would say most people who just want free games aren't willing to spend any money at all other than on their sd card.

 

[ZachyCatGames]

Yeah but if you're on a train and you have 5 legit games downloaded and 45 ""back ups"" at least if your switch goes flat before you can get to a charger you can continue to play the 5 legit games after it's charged again. Not everyone will have the ability to push payloads on the go. Iirc iPhones need to be jailbroken to push payloads.

Switches go into sleep mode when the battery dies :thonk:

 

[Gep_Etto]

I don't use it because there's no need. I never have to power down my Switch anymore, I can just reboot to payload when I need to instead of doing a full shutdown->startup and the rest of the time when I'm not using it it's in sleep mode on the dock.

I don't deny that AutoRCM is useful for a lot of people but to me it presents zero advantages. If I ever do need to power down the console in the future, I can live with taking two minutes to tether it to my laptop and inject a payload.

 

[BigOnYa]

I don't use it because there's no need. I never have to power down my Switch anymore, I can just reboot to payload when I need to instead of doing a full shutdown->startup and the rest of the time when I'm not using it it's in sleep mode on the dock.

I don't deny that AutoRCM is useful for a lot of people but to me it presents zero advantages. If I ever do need to power down the console in the future, I can live with taking two minutes to tether it to my laptop and inject a payload.

To each their own, you're right. I was like you till I started traveling alot, or would be away from pc for periods of time. One day while out playing on the switch and it hard crashed, and only could restart it OFW because I had no way to push payload. Never the less, nowdays I have Auto-rcm turned on, and I also replaced the reboot_payload.bin with hekate.bin (but rename it reboot_payload.bin), so now if it hard crashes, it will reboot to hekate menu without a jig, or payload at all. As matter of fact I have not used my Jig, or had to push a payload for 3+ months now. Ok just my opinion. Good luck to all and have fun!

 

[Gep_Etto]

To each their own, you're right. I was like you till I started traveling alot, or would be away from pc for periods of time. One day while out playing on the switch and it hard crashed, and only could restart it OFW because I had no way to push payload. Never the less, nowdays I have Auto-rcm turned on, and I also replaced the reboot_payload.bin with hekate.bin (but rename it reboot_payload.bin), so now if it hard crashes, it will reboot to hekate menu without a jig, or payload at all. As matter of fact I have not used my Jig, or had to push a payload for 3+ months now. Ok just my opinion. Good luck to all and have fun!

Yes, in your case it makes sense to rely on AutoRCM if you want to continue playing on the go. My Switch stays at home, though. But that's the beauty of having a community with all these different developers creating solutions to people's problems: like you said, to each his own. We can all customize our devices and methods to suit our own needs. You clearly benefit from AutoRCM, so you use it. I don't, so I don't. And we can all hold hands and sing songs around the campfire regardless.