How do you feel about abortion?

[FAST6191]

I understand but they should anyway! My three sisters used birth controls and dont have a problem and they got married and have children after. So it is effective. No excuse, really. I dont care about women's own bodies. They are dumbass and they are an idiot.

Three people is a good start for a sample but not something you can really base such things on, though as mentioned it is not terribly relevant to the matter at hand -- while abortions are a far more expensive, time consuming and otherwise annoying thing than some pills or a rubber the question still remains are they a valid thing to be doing? If not then why not?

Imagine If you were that baby! They have a right to life, like you do, how would you feel if I said you suck so DIE! DIE! DIE! And then you just die? Wouldn't be fair would it.

Imagine you were that sperm or egg that ultimately wound up being flushed away because someone had a period instead, or rubbed one out. Why is a foetus any different here?

 

[Jayro]

Imagine If you were that baby! They have a right to life, like you do, how would you feel if I said you suck so DIE! DIE! DIE! And then you just die? Wouldn't be fair would it? (Don't you think they deserve a chance to live, like you have a chance?)

Nah. That's how chance and fate work my dude.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

Three people is a good start for a sample but not something you can really base such things on, though as mentioned it is not terribly relevant to the matter at hand -- while abortions are a far more expensive, time consuming and otherwise annoying thing than some pills or a rubber the question still remains are they a valid thing to be doing? If not then why not?


Imagine you were that sperm or egg that ultimately wound up being flushed away because someone had a period instead, or rubbed one out. Why is a foetus any different here?

Because the fetus is a life that's why.

Nah. That's how chance and fate work my dude.

What do you mean chance and fate? it would be my decision.

 

[FAST6191]

Because the fetus is a life that's why.

How do you figure?

 

[Jayro]

Because the fetus is a life that's why.

Not alive until brain activity.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

How do you figure?

Not alive until brain activity.

Because of DNA, at the time the Fetus appears the DNA of the child is already decided, which means it's very much a life.

 

[spectral]

Because of DNA, at the time the Fetus appears the DNA of the child is already decided, which means it's very much a life.

No it isn't. DNA is the blueprint for life, not life itself. It's like saying a building already exists because someone designed the blueprint.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

No it isn't. DNA is the blueprint for life, not life itself. It's like saying a building already exists because someone designed the blueprint.

So you're saying the look of the child isn't already decided at the time it's a fetus, that doesn't work because when it's born it already has the set eyes, hair, and skin color, which comes from DNA, it's just developing in the womb.

 

[spectral]

So you're saying the look of the child isn't already decided at the time it's a fetus, that doesn't work because when it's born it already has the set eyes, hair, and skin color, which comes from DNA, it's just developing in the womb.

Thats the same as a blueprint, its the design of the life. But it doesn't have those eyes or hair or skin colour yet, its a few cells of goop, no more alive than a bacteria is. There is a big difference between what something IS and what it can become. Until the brain develops there is no person there to kill.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

Thats the same as a blueprint, its the design of the life. But it doesn't have those eyes or hair or skin colour yet, its a few cells of goop, no more alive than a bacteria is.

Correct, but as long as the blueprint is there that is a life, a life doesn't come from just breathing and existing it comes from being an alive body and spirit which is very much what a fetus is, it carries the spirit and look of a person, which makes a person. The body is being worked on, but the spirit and body is there so that's a person.

 

[FAST6191]

Because of DNA, at the time the Fetus appears the DNA of the child is already decided, which means it's very much a life.

Even ignoring my misgivings with the concept (again how do you figure?) but a sperm can meet an egg, a zygote to use the biological term, and not be implanted, indeed there are methods with prevent implantation (see Intrauterine device (IUD)) or things like the morning after pill which cause the lining to be shed and prevent implantation) and it is far from a rare occurrence in the observed world as well.

Edit fast moving thread. Spirit? Does such a thing even exist, and if so you are invited to prove it or show somewhere where they did.

 

[huma_dawii]

I approve. As long as the "life" is less than a month old.

 

[spectral]

Correct, but as long as the blueprint is there that is a life, a life doesn't come from just breathing and existing it comes from being an alive body and spirit which is very much what a fetus is, it carries the spirit and look of a person, which makes a person. The body is being worked on, but the spirit and body is there so that's a person.

Show me where on the body this mythical spirit is? Or are you just basing womens well being on a fairy tale?

 

[sarkwalvein]

Each cell in a body is alive, that include the many cells in my fingertips that I am killing due to striking my keyboard keys as I type... wait, what was I talking about?

Hmmm.... no idea... but actually, those cells I killed contain quite a bit of my generic material, not sure if enough to reverse engineer my DNA and create a clone, hmmm...

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

Show me where on the body this mythical spirit is? Or are you just basing womens well being on a fairy tale?

The Bible says in Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." this proves that there IS a soul in the body.

 

[spectral]

The Bible says in Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." this proves that there IS a soul in the body.

So you are basing it on a fairy tale.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

So you are basing it on a fairy tale.

The Bible isn't a fairy tail, try explaining the fine tuning of the universe to me without the Bible? Try explaining how the universe even began without the Bible? Try explaining all the planets and stars and cosmos to me without the Bible? You can't do any of it, and you and I know that. So you should call it a "fairy tail" off of your own personal beliefs.

 

[spectral]

The Bible isn't a fairy tail, try explaining the fine tuning of the universe to me without the Bible? Try explaining how the universe even began without the Bible? Try explaining all the planets and stars and cosmos to me without the Bible? You can't do any of it, and you and I know that.

Not knowing something doesn't automatically make something else true. You also don't know any of it all you have is an old book written by men. You may as well base your beliefs on lord of the rings, since they are both works of fiction written by fantasy authors.

 

[spotanjo3]

So you are basing it on a fairy tale.

I dont agreed with you. What if you wrote the diary of your life and does that mean your diary is a fairy tale ? No ? Then this bible is like a diary. So it is not a fairy tale since it is a true story. Dont blame the religion.. Blame the corrupt people who make up their religion and doesn't followed the Bible at all.

 

[Fates-Blade-900]

Not knowing something doesn't automatically make something else true. You also don't know any of it all you have is an old book written by men. You may as well base your beliefs on lord of the rings, since they are both works of fiction.

(*sigh* apologies every one) God wrote the Bible through men, which means it's His words if He says there's a soul there's a soul.