Hacking HomePass Warning

[Intronaut]

Today, we was doing homepass with a friend, both with a 9.2.0 firmware. Suddenly, He stopped receiving streetpasses. He checked settings and his firmware is now 9.4.0-21, while i am still in 9.2.0. He didn't deliberately updated their 3DS, so I fear the worst: automatic update installation.

 

[justln]

Yeah, cool story bro.

 

[OllieD]

Today, we was doing homepass with a friend, both with a 9.2.0 firmware. Suddenly, He stopped receiving streetpasses. He checked settings and his firmware is now 9.4.0-21, while i am still in 9.2.0. He didn't deliberately updated their 3DS, so I fear the worst: automatic update installation.

Automatic/Silent firmware updates for portable consoles will never be a thing. If your battery died or you turn off the console mid update you would brick the device and without some form of warning or confirmation you would be in very muddy legal water.

 

[Intronaut]

Yeah, cool story bro.

Don't believe me if you want. Maybe I'm wrong, but I only wait for a reasonable explication.

 

[Intronaut]

Automatic/Silent firmware updates for portable consoles will never be a thing. If your battery died or you turn off the console mid update you would brick the device and without some form of warning or confirmation you would be in very muddy legal water.

Ok, I see is very reasonable everything, but I don't understand however how his 3ds installed the update.

 

[nosignaldetected]

Ok, I see is very reasonable everything, but I don't understand however how his 3ds installed the update.

It didn't, unless he pressed the option to install it.

It would not install the update by itself. Download it, yes. Install it, no. There's no arguing this.

For a start, a console updating purely by itself without you accepting the installation first would be illegal in the EU.

 

[Thomas12345]

Automatic/Silent firmware updates for portable consoles will never be a thing. If your battery died or you turn off the console mid update you would brick the device and without some form of warning or confirmation you would be in very muddy legal water.

They can just use a snapshot and on the reboot check if update completed successfully. If not, use the snapshot. Even with a desktop plugged into the wall the power can go out, the user can manually shut down the computer, etc. there are already techniques for dealing with stuff like this

 

[migles]

are you sure he didn't rush pressed buttons without even paying attention, or he lend his 3ds to someone who could press A/accept without his knowledge?

 

[Intronaut]

are you sure he didn't rush pressed buttons without even paying attention, or he lend his 3ds to someone who could press A/accept without his knowledge?

I am sure, but in case of doubts: is there a way to know when an update was installed?

 

[Reecey]

Today, we was doing homepass with a friend, both with a 9.2.0 firmware. Suddenly, He stopped receiving streetpasses. He checked settings and his firmware is now 9.4.0-21, while i am still in 9.2.0. He didn't deliberately updated their 3DS, so I fear the worst: automatic update installation.

Sure he wasn't pulling your pisser m8 and had updated to 9.4 to begin with and was trying to make out it was some secret Nintendo update through your HomePass? so you would start trolling on GBATemp. Cause that would not happen, fulllstop!!! Its called being naive! Or basically your just trolling about the idea, one of the two is right!

 

[ground]

They can just use a snapshot and on the reboot check if update completed successfully. If not, use the snapshot. Even with a desktop plugged into the wall the power can go out, the user can manually shut down the computer, etc. there are already techniques for dealing with stuff like this

apparently they have that: http://3dbrew.org/wiki/Flash_Filesystem#NAND_structure

but did we get the stories about participial updates? (i am wondering now)

 

[OllieD]

They can just use a snapshot and on the reboot check if update completed successfully. If not, use the snapshot. Even with a desktop plugged into the wall the power can go out, the user can manually shut down the computer, etc. there are already techniques for dealing with stuff like this

I'm not saying it isn't possible. I'ts been possible for decades. Nobody does it because of reasons such as this.

 

[Intronaut]

Sure he wasn't pulling your pisser m8 and had updated to 9.4 to begin with and was trying to make out it was some secret Nintendo update through your HomePass? so you would start trolling on GBATemp. Cause that would not happen, fulllstop!!! Its called being naive! Or basically your just trolling about the idea, one of the two is right!

Emmm, no. I was only telling my experience. You're free to believe it or not. Now I know the automatic update is impossible, but I'm still wondering what happened.

If you feel trolled, please call the mods. Anyways I want to delete this post, because I don't wanna scare anyone.

 

[loco365]

For a start, a console updating purely by itself without you accepting the installation first would be illegal in the EU.

Wii U says hi.

 

[nosignaldetected]

Wii U says hi.

Yep. Of which has an agreement to automatic updates which you accept. 3DS does not have this.

 

[irongecko]

My 3ds has actually stopped working on homepass recently, but it certainly hasn't done automatic updates.

 

[loco365]

My 3ds has actually stopped working on homepass recently, but it certainly hasn't done automatic updates.

It might be because of the fact that you're using an old SSID and not a new one. I'm planning an update to MACycle soon that will warn users of this.

 

[tbb043]

Yep. Of which has an agreement to automatic updates which you accept. 3DS does not have this.

It's not an agreement when your choices are "Accept" or "Wii U becomes paperweight until you accept", it's extortion. Last I checked extortion was illegal in lot of places other than just the EU.

 

[Zidapi]

It's not an agreement when your choices are "Accept" or "Wii U becomes paperweight until you accept", it's extortion. Last I checked extortion was illegal in lot of places other than just the EU.

What.

Automatic updates entirely optional.

 

[MelonGx]

He must press Yes on updating dialog's appearing.

HomePass only forces every 3DS to connect to the Internet, which automatically downloads latest FW.
But it never confirms the update.