Homebrew Homebrew Development

[daicon]

With entrypoint i just meant something to replace mset haxx. Not a completely new exploit. Such a new exploit would hurt the scene more than help, because widespreaded and easy piracy would lower the quality of the games and Nintendo has already enough problems. That's not worth it for just some homebrewers. Homebrew is dying. The security + technology get better and better and there are enough less complex alternatives. So exploits are used for 99% piracy.

I don't support this movement. What we do, are proof of concepts and remain concepts. If homebrew dies, then with a good end (or more that's what i wish, but there are always brainless idiots like Brickway wanting to make money with shady business).

Btw: The tool to build installable apps will be released, if it is ready. It's still in development and buggy.

I respect your opinions but reading that makes me think you don't know what homebrew is even about at all. It comes across as some outdated argument for DRM. Or one of those execs that say PC gaming is dead because of piracy. Completely misguided in my opinion but that's just me being disagreeable

Spoiler

Since I got my first gameboy as a kid I'd always dreamed of more I could do with it, wishing I'd could connect online, send messages with it, whatever. I bought crappy toys like cameras for my GBA just because I wanted more functionality with this, essentially, handheld computer. That was just my generation, smartphones didn't exist, pokemon grabbed my imagination, and I had a hardon for game hardware. That's all homebrew really was for me.

If I can use myself as an example again: I had zero interest in PSP until homebrew came out. Then I went out and bought a console (same for 3DS), because I wanted a system that could do more. I won't lie in that I played a ton of ROMs on it, if homebrew had never happened, I wouldn't have close to 40 legit UMD games for my system that I bought. Homebrew literally put the system in my hand.

If Nintendo wanted, they could have implemented homebrew and still protected their software and you and me both would be happy. But, really, they just don't care. They have alot in common with Apple in that they want to have complete control over their customers, which I don't think is warranted. Now Nintendo is in hard times, but it's odd to see so much sympathy for a company that really isn't that noble:
http://www.enoughproject.org/news/intel-hp-rank-highest-conflict-minerals-nintendo-htc-lag-behind aiding slavery
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/n...o-unfriendly-electronics-company-greenpeace_4 environment harming
http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-removing-same-sex-relationships-from-3ds-game-253617.phtml homophobic

Anyway this is all offtopic but I hope some atleast see it as a halfway decent show of hand for homebrew. I think the day homebrew dies is the day proprietary hardware dies.

 

[Rinnux]

Guys please get back on topic. This is a homebrew thread. Not a "lets debate the moral and ethical aspects of piracy" thread.

 

[PewnyPL]

Guys please get back on topic. This is a homebrew thread. Not a "lets debate the moral and ethical aspects of piracy" thread.

This thread has tendency to do so. Can't really avoid it due to the two being close to each other in a way.

 

[Cyan]

How did it became 3 page of offtopic wars about piracy in less than a day?

This thread is the place to help each other for homebrew development, please do not turn it into a place to discuss legality/piracy/loss/moral/etc.
There are other place on the forum for that. (or if you want I can move the posts here to a new thread instead of deleting/hiding them).
For the moment, I won't delete them as it's part of the discussion, but please don't keep derailing this thread's main purpose.


Continue to share your work and knowledge about 3DS homebrew.
Thanks

 

[VMM]

Every time there is a discussion about homebrew, flashcards or hacking, it soon starts to become a discussion about piracy and the ethics of it.
If I were a mod I'd create a stick thread on general gaming section just for it, something like "piracy, ethics and the hacking scene".
Every time people started with these useless discussions I'd point them this topic and move posts there.
If people keep derailing the threads I'd give them warnings, and in last case, if necessary I'd ban them.

 

[Abcdfv]

Every time there is a discussion about homebrew, flashcards or hacking, it soon starts to become a discussion about piracy and the ethics of it.
If I were a mod I'd create a stick thread on general gaming section just for it, something like "piracy, ethics and the hacking scene".
Every time people started with these useless discussions I'd point them this topic and move posts there.
If people keep derailing the threads I'd give them warnings, and in last case, if necessary I'd ban them.

Vmm for mod! Maybe not but it's a good idea.
I just wish my computer wasn't in storage or I'd try to dev some arm9 homebrew

 

[tHciNc]

I think people just get a bit butt hurt, that the people that have made the most progress with homebrew develoment aren't interested in piracy whatsoever, and good on them, luckily we live in a world where people should be entitled to do what they wish, without people whinging and crying about it and bring up the same static stats, articles etc time and time again...its getting a bit old....

 

[Abcdfv]

3ds arm 11 "firmware launch able" home brew is coming. It may take time but while I hope the "piracy will kill the 3ds" crowd is wrong I can't help but agree that for the time being their $$ is better than free approach is best.

 

[kyogre123]

hurts VC sales.

The only thing that "hurts" VC sales are licenses.

 

[YoshiInAVoid]

How do you return to the firmware?

This is my arm 11 thread:

void _thread() {
    asm("UXTB r0,r1");
    hidExit();
    gspExit();
    aptExit();
    svc_exitProcess();
    return;
}

When I run this, nothing happens. Is there something I need to do on arm 9 as well?

Kane49 profi200

 

[profi200]

You can't return to home menu after the exploit runs.

As already said, the ARM11 side is broken and the ARM9 side too. You can't use any service.

 

[YoshiInAVoid]

You can't return to home menu after the exploit runs.

As already said, the ARM11 side is broken and the ARM9 side too. You can't use any service.

I suppose you wont share how to fix this?

 

[profi200]

FIRM relaunch. And no, wait for smea to release redNAND.

 

[ichichfly]

You can't return to home menu after the exploit runs.

As already said, the ARM11 side is broken and the ARM9 side too. You can't use any service.

On the arm11 side some swi commands still work but WaitSynchronizationN is not and so is WaitSynchronization1 and SendSyncRequest is also not working

 

[YoshiInAVoid]

Smealum just tweeted this:

out of curiosity, how many of you still have 6.3 3DSs ?

ok to clarify i meant post-4.5 but pre-7.0

Hint of 5.0 - 6.3 exploit?

 

[lambstone]

Smealum just tweeted this:




Hint of 5.0 - 6.3 exploit?

I guess if you're <6.3 you could update to 6.3 for the exploit.

Well the plot thickens. Smealum's tweet coupled with the chinese dude's supposed leak doesn't spell good for GW.

 

[YoshiInAVoid]

Another tweet:

this is just a poll anyway, not an anouncement or anything like that

 

[alirezay]

Another tweet:

some people just want to watch the world burn
anyway how can i make a homebrew for 3ds?
i mean i know nothing about programming and i want to start from zero!

 

[lambstone]

some people just want to watch the world burn
anyway how can i make a homebrew for 3ds?
i mean i know nothing about programming and i want to start from zero!

Well. The same way that anyone who wants to be a doctor but have no knowledge of the human body or science for that matter.

 

[alirezay]

Well. The same way that anyone who wants to be a doctor but have no knowledge of the human body or science for that matter.

well.....did you know how to program from ur birth?
its never late for learning!
you cant be doctor if u just tell urself that i know nothing and never start....