Help with a Vita TitleId

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  1. nightweb
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    Hello all,

    I was wondering if you guys can help me, I have had a couple of Vita's since launch and I set them up years ago, all was good, few years ago I had a disagreement with Activision and got fairly annoyed with an employee words were said, I said a few things I regret saying in heat of moment, account got banned and yanked.

    Fast forward to few months ago and I've been playing it a lot more lately but I miss the multiplayer so I decided to change accounts on the vita, I'm trying to use trophy fixer to fix being able to earn trophies however it keeps failing to find a few files I screenshot the TitleId install and on wards it moves (most of the titleId's are from old PSN+ games I had years ago. To find the right app I usually screenshot the id and then tap it into google it spits out the name, I download *completely Legitimately* double secret promise from the store run trophyfixer and it moves on to next title, delete title (most my games now are cards since was banned) rinse repeat however I can't find the name for a titleId and was wondering if anyone here might know it or a way to forge it to delete it or make the vita think its already deleted?

    TitleID: PCSF00257

    PS if anyone knows a way to copy trophies from one account to another that'd be awesome if you could share
     
  2. omnipresent

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    I believe copying or duplicating trophies between PSN accounts is not possible.
     
  3. nightweb
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    Yeah I'm thinking so though on the Vita I've seen scraps of posts suggesting it might be possible, but they all incomplete or old and link to lost files or blogs etc. :(
     
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    It is all stored on Sony’s servers… Impossible unless you hack them.
     
  5. godreborn

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    tbh, I'm not exactly sure about your original question. to make the system think that no game isn't there would be to delete it from the app.db . if you just don't want it to appear, give it a page that doesn't exist in the appicon table. if you want to delete all traces, sort by name, and look for the title id in the appinfo table. there are 25/26 cells with game information/game iirc. see if you can delete the cells. however, that may not work. the app.db doesn't like it when you delete things, so it may not work. I found that out with the liveframe table.
     
  6. nightweb
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    true but apparently you can hack them locally and then they get sync'd up

    Honestly It's not that I don't want the app to appear I think it was on a memory card that might have got formatted, I just want to reinstall it or delete it so trophyfixer can finish. it seems to read the install list an run them one by one to do its magic. Mind if I inquire what you mean by editing the app.db? and a liveframe table? maybe possible to just edit the entry to point to a different app even? (sorry my Vita skills are severely lacking)
     
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    I pulled the db off the vita have have been going through the file and i can't find a reference to it in there, bit puzzled now tbh :-S
     
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    the appicon table contains page, position of each app (where each app appears on the livearea), icon location (usually vs0 or ur0), and app name (can be changed) are located in this table. changing the page, which is the screen where an icon appears can be modified. in fact, I think this is how the 100+ limit works, since you can't have more than 100 items on the liveaarea at one time. that's ten pages with each page containing 10 positions (0-9). if you've ever noticed, spaces go from 3 to 4 to 3 equaling 10 icons on each page. I'm not sure if that makes sense, but that's how the system reads them. create a non existent page. bubble pages are two digits (typically starting in the twenties), so you might try page 11 or a page you're not using.

    the appinfo icon seems to contain information from the PARAM.SFO of each install. there are around 25 of them iirc. one of these is the eboot locations, so look in the location specified if you want to see where the game is located, or at least where the system thinks it's located. I don't know if you can delete these. very little can you actually delete, 'cause I think the app.db contains a checksum. if you've ever noticed, the app.db never changes size. however, with 3.65 ensou, my app.db got noticeably smaller (like 100KBs). originally, on the pstv and psv they were 860KB/884KBs and never changed no matter how much was installed. now, it's down to 7xx KBs on both systems. I think sony removed something from partition vs0 which is where system title are located. all but one is located in that partition.

    the liveframe table allows you to apply text to games upon boot. you have to change the livearea table to psmobile for the app in question or the text won't appear.

    if you do mess up the app.db, the system will just rebuild the database. don't use vita's with the pstv's or the other way around or it will cause that to happen as they're different. you may need to rebuild the livearea with vitashell as I've heard nonpdrm games don't appear by rebuilding the database. I think it's due to the licenses.

    I hope I didn't confuse you too much. it's difficult to explain, but once you see the app.db (use sqlite browser 3), it will make more sense.
     
  9. nightweb
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    thank you for response sorry took so long refresh didn't happen for a while, where I'm getting confused was after you mentioned it I pulled the app.db off the vita (actually both of them) and nether of the has any mention of the TitleID trophyfixer is looking for (PCSF00257). my hope was to copy any existing app into the same location and delete that removing the entry however the app.db. I'm going to try rebuild the database see if it help however I manage to find app data folder with the TitleID so that's further puzzling me.

    I was looking through the app.db file with the sqlite broswer, and seems an interesting file indeed bit surprising considering how the Vita is setup, seem a bit bag of mixed up stuff. is it the only location on the vita that contains all the info about installed apps and such? yup I had heard about the 100 item limit but sadly I never had the chance to fill it XD would it help if I got the appdata folder?
     
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    tbh, I'm not sure about it being the only location with all of that information. it can be manipulated, so even if it isn't, it's given priority. I think you can drop files and replace them as afaik, the only location specified is the eboot. I even changed an eboot to a vboot by manipulating the app.db. it did in fact work. however, I can't say for sure that that particular game will work.

    there's a trophy database as well where you can unlock trophies. you can also open this with sqlite browser. I have a tutorial on this in pinky's ps vita tutorials. though, I've never tried to add or delete an entire trophy log, just unlock trophies or change the trophy names.
     
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    I tried rebuilding the app.db but sadly it's still looking for that app :( think adding in the app to that file might help? as I said theres no mention of it in the app.db file so I can't figure out why throphyfixer is looking for that id, might see if adding a random homebrew then changing it to match the id it's looking for?

    do you happen to have a link to the tutorial? I was thinking of trying to copy them over, just rather keep them if I can since I spent so long getting them as sure you can imagine
     
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    the tutorial is in my sig. I'm not sure if that will work. are you saying that the app isn't being picked up for use or that you want to delete the app and it's not being picked up?
     
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    check it out as soon as Nintendo direct is over thank you, not sure I run trophy fixer and it normally minimizes itself opens and app, then swaps back, then trophy's in that game work again. however for some reason it's looking for an app (check pic) tries to open and says can't open file. so far I've been re downloading whichever app it's stuck on but I can't find this one and can't find a name for it. I don't even know what app it is so I could probably delete it.

    main thing trying to do is fix it so I can earn trophies without delete all games and saves
     

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    I think most apps stay away from the P's, since that's what official games come as. if it's one of those, you might be able to find it on gamefaqs or gamedb. it's under release date on gamefaqs, and I haven't been on gamedb in a while.
     
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    I searched using a few different sources, I tried google first because ya know the only one who knows more are the alphabets, no hits there, I tried looking though the release logs, no joy there, I tried looking through a few less legitimate lists of downloadable content and couldn't find it anywhere, could it have been maps? I know that was removed but could that still be referenced in whatever trophyfixer is reading?

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    Scratch that, found the TitleID of maps as "NPXS10005"
     
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    if you mean a system title, 90-95% of those are in partition vs0. afaik, you can delete them, but be extremely careful. those system titles start with N iirc, so that should tell you if it's one of them.
     
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    no I was just thinking as it was intergrated it wouldn't be downloadable and as it was removed it might still be looking for it but as i mentioned I found its id and I was wrong, :( plus as for the apps on it there aren't an issue so leave them as is, no advantage to removing them is there?
     
  18. godreborn

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    the app.db doesn't change size. that could be how it determines the 500 game limit. I believe that the one on the ps4 does actually increase in size. :P that system may not have a limit considering the size of the hdd you can use. that's why I think it was done this way. anyway, since the size doesn't increase, it won't affect anything unless you don't want the app on the system itself. I've never personally encountered a rogue app that mysteriously exists but doesn't if that's what your saying.
     
  19. nightweb
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    sadly after being banned for no reason I swore off sony purchases ever again so I've no ps4, I don't know you can have as much as your memory allows which for 64gb could be a lot of mini's but with the app.db being on the system and the games being on the card you could easily grown to a point you have way more titles than the screen allows.

    no not really, as far as I can gather trophyfixer opens ever app once to fix it but when its trying to open that app in the pic it can find it, I want to either delete it from whatever trophyfixer is reading or install it so TF fixes it and moves on, TF doesn't seem to have a manual control or even a skip bottom
     
  20. godreborn

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    I feel the same way after having been banned on the ps3, but I came to the realization that I had broken the terms of service. that banning has caused me quite the headache especially when it was an account banning on top of a system one. that's the main reason I stopped playing the ps4. I don't want that to happen with the switch or else I'd have probably hacked the thing. lol

    I'm not familiar with that app. it may be looking in the app.db to find the app, I'm not sure, or it could be looking in the license folder. I've not found a mention of licensing in the app.db though. each game has a title id, and each license is named the same thing only separated by the title id folder. each license inside (if it's nonpdrm) is the same as well which I think is why they're not picked up by the system during a rebuild of the database. the appmeta just contains artwork mostly, so that would be a strange way to find content. that's on ur0. I'm not sure what the appmeta on ux0 does.
     
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