Hacking HBC 1.0.8 Update

[sorgelig]

Who called AHBPROT as bug?
It's feature which can be disabled quickly, since it's not used (besides Gamecube mode) in normal life.
They may add access AHBPROT feature only by valid signature of title body or whatever.

It's not catching numerous known piracy/homebrew IOSes and stub them. Just make rollup of all system IOSes like it has been done against trucha bug long time ago. Since most IOSes share the same modules, probably only one module has to be fixed and hash if this module should be updated in every IOS' TMD.

Since AHBPROT has been advertised so much last month, Nintendo most likely will block it.
What TT will do then? Invent new exploit? All other apps should be rewritten too, or will able to run only in HBC.

Wii Homebrew is a free society. If somebody will put hard rules, then either it will be split or die.
Enduser won't get anything new from rewritting applications. Applications had access to USB2 through cIOS, then will have access through IOS58 - it doesn't matter. Just walking around one place (sorry English is not my native language. don't know how to tell it better). Having special patched version of IOS in free slot is absolutely harmless. And developer don't need to brake his brain thinking which version IOS is currently running (IOS58 has 2 versions already and no body knows how many versions will be) and what exactly bytes need to patch to turn specific function on.
Actually, USB2 applications would migrate to IOS58 regarless TT rule. It could be just question of time. It could be smooth without such rush. And may be cIOS would disappear if it realy was ugly solution.
Backup loading (or piracy - depend what you want) already doesn't require cIOS at all. WODE can load any DVD from USB on virgin Wii (ugly, from LCD navigation, but can!). With DVD_LowUnencryptedRead you can get perfect USB launcher. No cIOS, no AHBPROT really need. Only pure software USB loaders with a lot of incompatibilies require cIOS.

So, if TT want to fight to piracy/loaders then it's total fail.

 

[megazig]

if you're doing hardcoded memory address patches, you miss the point entirely

 

[WiiUBricker]

LoL, it seems that USB2 from IOS58 is slower than the USB2 module from IOS202.

and how did you check that? using 2 different applications? :')

Just go to #Wiidev and ask around :')

 

[nIxx]

Honestly why do people make such a big problem out of it !?. TT gives us a new (easy to use) feature and peoples are complaining

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So, if TT want to fight to piracy/loaders then it's total fail.

Many peoples said now more than time they don´t want to fight piracy what´s so hard to understand about it.

 

[Jacobeian]

I think he is just trolling now.
or there is so much mess in its argumentation than it's impossible to have a sane discussion

and what DOP-Mii, Trucha Bug restorer or AnyTitleDeleter, that were removed from wiibrew, have to do with piracy ? It's all about having to rely on custom IOS to do things, this has been explained 100x time already

To make it simple for you: this new feature means noobs don't need to install anything complicated to get USB2 support, no more people messing with CIOS installation, IOS downgrading, etc... when they just want to load movies or emulate big N64 ROMS... is that better ?

If you still want to use CIOS, then do it and stop crying, nobody is preventing you from doing it.

 

[WiiUBricker]

So, if TT want to fight to piracy/loaders then it's total fail.

Many peoples said now more than time they don´t want to fight piracy what´s so hard to understand about it.


You seem to be blind. Of course the whole point of this crap is a step against piracy = fakesigning stuff

ADD: There's no way a cIOS would cause a brick.

ADD2:
QUOTE(Jacobeian @ Aug 16 2010, 04:20 PM)

To make it simple for you: this new feature means noobs don't need to install anything complicated to get USB2 support, no more people messing with CIOS installation, IOS downgrading, etc... when they just want to load movies or emulate big N64 ROMS... is that better ?

Honestly I dont see any difference in launching the IOS58 Installer and a cIOS Installer. Both loads IOS from Nintendos Update Servers and install them, with patches or without patches.

 

[Jacobeian]

So, if TT want to fight to piracy/loaders then it's total fail.

Many peoples said now more than time they don´t want to fight piracy what´s so hard to understand about it.

You seem to be blind. Of course the whole point of this crap is a step against piracy =fakesigning stuff

ADD: There's no way a cIOS would cause a brick.

I have updated to HBC 1.0.8, use IOS58 to play ROMS in emulators with USB2 speed or from DVD, and still use my USB Loader without any issue
I've hard time figuring how the hell this "crap" is a step against piracy

I don't understand why so much people completely miss the point of that recent move, wiibrew has never been and never will be supporting piracy so WTF ? it seems everybody is taking this personally as an offence against his "way of hacking"

 

[ChokeD]

2 die down cause they've been at it all night and 2 more take their place. When will it ever end ?? *goes to get some more popcorn*

 

[Dogway]

Sorry guys I had to make an account only to ask how to remove the autoupdate function of HBC 1.0.8. Im quite fine with 1.0.7 and dont want to bother anymore (headaches after 2 weeks intense wii scene training)

 

[WiiUBricker]

I have updated to HBC 1.0.8, use IOS58 to play ROMS in emulators with USB2 speed or from DVD, and still use my USB Loader without any issue
I've hard time figuring how the hell this "crap" is a step against piracy

A quote from dhewg:

QUOTEEvery app that can install a modified IOS has been deleted from wiibrew. That does not mean you can’t get it from somewhere else. But it means that a Wii homebrew newcomer will not instantly stumble upon a questionable app which risks your Wii for nothing.

Here you have it, they dont want users to find those "evil" apps because they know they would use them to install cIOS and pirate games.

 

[megazig]

out of context much?

that means that wiibrew is for homebrew and homebrew setup.
people coming there will be doing so to get info on the ppc exploit to run unsigned code, how to install HBC for further running of said code, and general wii knowledge. No point muddying up the process wtih unneeded things. cIOS/patched IOS isn't needed at that stage.

past that they have every choice in the world where to go for info

 

[Jacobeian]

A quote from dhewg:

Every app that can install a modified IOS has been deleted from wiibrew. That does not mean you can’t get it from somewhere else. But it means that a Wii homebrew newcomer will not instantly stumble upon a questionable app which risks your Wii for nothing.

Here you have it, they dont want users to find those "evil" apps because they know they would use them to install cIOS and pirate games.

yes, exactly what I said. How bad this is ? This prevents most noobs to install potentially dangerous stuff when they don't need it and avoid forums being filled of complaints & questions because installing a cIOS on a virgin Wii is not the most trivial thing to do.

read dhewg post again then read your "translation" and see how fast you are to jump into distorting other's words.

 

[purkinje]

I have updated to HBC 1.0.8, use IOS58 to play ROMS in emulators with USB2 speed or from DVD, and still use my USB Loader without any issue
I've hard time figuring how the hell this "crap" is a step against piracy

I don't understand why so much people completely miss the point of that recent move, wiibrew has never been and never will be supporting piracy so WTF ? it seems everybody is taking this personally as an offence against his "way of hacking"

+1 I installed the newest HBC and I've been enjoying USB 2.0 speeds with Tantric's emulators AND enjoying my warez on a usbloader. What's the big deal?

Who cares that wiibrew banned a few more apps? Wiibrew has always been a lousy place to learn about newly released apps; plenty of other sites can keep you informed on new releases without the BS.

 

[WiiUBricker]

A quote from dhewg:

Every app that can install a modified IOS has been deleted from wiibrew. That does not mean you can’t get it from somewhere else. But it means that a Wii homebrew newcomer will not instantly stumble upon a questionable app which risks your Wii for nothing.

Here you have it, they dont want users to find those "evil" apps because they know they would use them to install cIOS and pirate games.

yes, exactly what I said. How bad this is ? This prevents most noobs to install potentially dangerous stuff when they don't need it and avoid forums being filled of complaints & questions because installing a cIOS on a virgin Wii is not the most trivial thing to do.

Again, why is a cIOS or the installation of a cIOS so "dangerous"? A cIOS or an installation procedure of a cIOS is not more "dangerous" than the installation of a clean IOS58. The only difference between those installations is that in order to install a cIOS, you need at least one IOS with trucha bug and NAND Access. I never heard of a case, in which someone bricked his/her Wii during the installation procedure of a cIOS.

 

[propered]

Does HBC send statistical information back 'home' and do i have a choice to turn it off ?

 

[Jacobeian]

Again, why is a cIOS or the installation of a cIOS so "dangerous"? A cIOS or an installation procedure of a cIOS is not more "dangerous" than the installation of a clean IOS58. The only difference between those installations is that in order to install a cIOS, you need at least one IOS with trucha bug and NAND Access. I never heard of a case, in which someone bricked his/her Wii during the installation procedure of a cIOS.

then you haven't spend much time on Wiibrew forums, there are tons of examples of people bricking their Wii after having followed a "guide" that told them to install tons of stuff they eventually didn't need

the fact it's easy or harmless for you or most people hanging around here, does not mean it's not still risky and over-complicated operation for a newcomer that :

1/ have a Wii that never was hacked
2/ doesn't know what he's doing

why make these people's life more complicate when easier and more reliable procedure exist ?

 

[WiiUBricker]

Again, why is a cIOS or the installation of a cIOS so "dangerous"? A cIOS or an installation procedure of a cIOS is not more "dangerous" than the installation of a clean IOS58. The only difference between those installations is that in order to install a cIOS, you need at least one IOS with trucha bug and NAND Access. I never heard of a case, in which someone bricked his/her Wii during the installation procedure of a cIOS.

then you haven't spend much time on Wiibrew forums, there are tons of examples of people bricking their Wii after having followed a "guide" that told them to install tons of stuff they eventually didn't need

They probably tried to install that piece of shit named cIOSCORP/DARKCORP. If they did so, then it is their own fault.

But there is no way an installation of one cIOS (for example IOS249) would cause a brick since the Installer install it on a free/unused IOS-Slot. It's not more dangerous for example than to install even a stubed IOS on a free slot.

 

[Slowking]

I wish when people made blanket statments like the above, they'd take the time to explain their reasoning or the technicalities. First of all, 'they aren't'? Since you say 'they', I assume that doesn't include 'you', in which case how do you know what they are really going to be doing.
Because svpe said in this very thread they wouldn't.

For all you know, Nintendo has finally responded to their 'reaching out' while also reaching for their checkbook. Everyone has a price.
Paranoid much?

Everyone. Do they release their source code, and if not, no one can say with 100% certainty what their app can or cannot do. And I'd find it hard to believe that an app that 'phones home' every time it runs couldn't blacklist certain apps if they chose to do so.

They don't release their source for their installer because it woul be easy for Nintendo to blok it if they did ad the don't release the source for the actual channel, because scammers would take it, remove all the scam warnings and reompile it.
And how would you go about blocking apps? They could be recompiled in a second, so the work again.


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Do you know what 'statistics' they transmit back home, or whatever else they feel like?

Yes we do know what say sen home. Everbod can know it. You just have to capture the traffic between the Wii and the internet. Not exactly hard to do. And it's just an anonymous user statistic that doesn't send what programs you use.

I won't dignify the rest of your post with a response, I already waste enough time...

 

[smashdude]

Which apps did they delete? Link me. If so how can I downgrade my Homebrew version?

 

[WiiShizzza]

properly the wrong thread....
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