Hacking Hannah Montana Exploit

[WiiUBricker]

on irc they were saying, that they wanted us to have a bunch of crappy games to softmod the wii

Who are "they"?

 

[PizzaPino]

on irc they were saying, that they wanted us to have a bunch of crappy games to softmod the wii

Who are "they"?

poon and cred
(but maybe they were just joking around)

 

[Piccio]

Good news, not impossibile to find and cheap...

But it could be the worst game that I ever bought

 

[Quanno]

But, is this going to be PAL or NTCS?

 

[hamato]

The answer will arrive when the exploit will be presented (if it really exists).

 

[Benjay]

As DacoTaco said , if it's a classical buffer overflow (like yu-gi-owned) , it should be available for PAL , NTSC and NTSC-J.

But , maybe it's just a Crediar's joke lol , to see the buzz.....

@Hamato : ah bin t'es là toi !!! ^^

 

[WiiUBricker]

It's likely to be a PAL exploit since crediar lives in germany.

 

[Juanmatron]

I wonder why crediar owns a game like Hannah Montana in the first place

I wonder why Bushing owns Hannah Montana game

 

[Hielkenator]

A game exploit should work on every firmware.

Look at TP Ninty fixed it.

 

[KirovAir]

A game exploit should work on every firmware.

Look at TP Ninty fixed it.

They made a hacky work-around that removed a tampered twylight save on boot.
The actual exploit still works.

 

[FAST6191]

Good news if so.

As for the technical side of things these exploits usually stem from a buffer overflow (indeed it is about the most common attack technique there is)- the general idea is that the game goes to fetch a bit of data as it normally would but instead of there being what it wants there will be an unending string of data (usually caused by the developer simply putting a read until you hit a 00 command in there and as the hacker makes sure there is no 00 it carries on) and after this the device will keep copying said data into the memory.
Mostly this just crashes a machine or causes odd effects in a game but if you do it correctly it will overwrite the actual code the game uses or a pointer (directions to something, in this case code)- bam you have yourself your own code on a system with all that it implies (note not always total ownership of the system but a start).
You can prevent them quite easily by checking your data as it goes into the buffer you are using but not all programmers do this (see "if it compiles- ship it") hence the never ending push to find new exploits. It is not necessarily always the game developers fault either- another big target in recent times has been image libraries (TIFF being a good one and what gave us 5.03 chickHEN on the PSP), flash is another good one, PDF another (PDF is terrible from a security standpoint) and it goes on.

If you hack a save that is one thing- the game/menu will need it there before it loads (that is when the menu is still running) and you can take it down there as you can update the menu (games being based on read only media and all). The security system of the wii will allow the hack to always work though (the 360 and to some extent the PS3 does things a bit differently hence buffer overflows not being of much use there- granted the original jailbreak was an overflow at hardware level and the code that should have protected it not being up to scratch) just that updates will not allow it to progress (the twilight hack and bannerbomb were brought back a couple of times because these checks/exclusions/"fixes" were not as good as they needed to be).
Smash stack is "unpatchable" purely as it is user data that can be presented after the menu has more or less given up doing anything and the game gets to load data from the SD. They could try to prevent it at menu level but all that would happen then is maybe a quick recompile and instructions saying "insert SD after game has loaded"- at best it would be a minor annoyance (nintendo have done such things as well- see homebrew channel JODI/HAXX stuff and earlier on GC linux and the like being blocked at MIOS level but a quick change and you are back up and running).

On the other hand I do wonder if we will ever see some hardware level hacks, granted you are always going to have those that whine for a software hack but those that can (especially given how cheap and easy programmable chips are these days) would probably be appreciative of the option.

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What will be more interesting though is having pulled apart a few of these sorts of games in the past across many platforms they are often based around the same engine/"framework"- if this is still the case (and given how cheaply these games are knocked together I have little reason to doubt it) Disney might just have given us a large vat of games with which to keep wiis modded. Nintendo could try for a universal fix but it would be tough going (and Nintendo's security wing is not exactly that fast/good half the time).

 

[Benjay]

A game exploit should work on every firmware.

Look at TP Ninty fixed it.

That's not what i meant.
For example you can run yu-gi-owned on a 3.2 firmware.
It should work on every firmware , until Ninty fixes it

 

[hamato]

An exploit on 4.3 will run on 4.1.
Exploits are Firmware backward compatible

 

[Hielkenator]

Yes but not needed. There's bannerbomb for those firmwares. No need for a game. So pointless.

 

[Hielkenator]

A game exploit should work on every firmware.

Look at TP Ninty fixed it.

They made a hacky work-around that removed a tampered twylight save on boot.
The actual exploit still works.

And relaesed a new version of the game. The new TP is'nt compatible with TH.

 

[Benjay]

Yes but not needed. There's bannerbomb for those firmwares. No need for a game. So pointless.

Agreed , but i was just answering a question , if it was for firmware 4.3

 

[Hielkenator]

Yes but not needed. There's bannerbomb for those firmwares. No need for a game. So pointless.

Agreed , but i was just answering a question , if it was for firmware 4.3

Would be cool if it got released. Just ordered the game to be save.

 

[nutta_nic]

Yes but not needed. There's bannerbomb for those firmwares. No need for a game. So pointless.

Agreed , but i was just answering a question , if it was for firmware 4.3

Would be cool if it got released. Just ordered the game to be save.

same as that mate, £7.98 from game.co.uk, bloody bargain!! lol

 

[Juanmatron]

Metal powers predict an explosion sales of Hannah Montana game.

 

[ketufe]

thank's