Group boycotts 3DS because it fuels human right abuses.

[Law]

As if I give a shit about the Congo. The people of the Congo need to civilize themselves and stop acting like savages, raping and killing their neighbors.

It's not like this happens anywhere else or anything.

Fucking Congonians.

 

[HBK]

As if I give a shit about the Congo. The people of the Congo need to civilize themselves and stop acting like savages, raping and killing their neighbors. I'm not going to stop that by not buying a 3DS. Even if not one 3DS gets sold will that stop even one savage from cutting the hands off a woman before he rapes her? If these people can't afford guns they'll use machetes, clubs, and rocks like they have for thousands of years. If everyone stopped buying electronics today fifteen years from now not one life will have been saved. You can't civilize a savage buy boycotting Nintendo. It's an incredibly foolish and ignorant notion.

How old are you, 13?

 

[Fireballo]

As if I give a shit about the Congo. The people of the Congo need to civilize themselves and stop acting like savages, raping and killing their neighbors. I'm not going to stop that by not buying a 3DS. Even if not one 3DS gets sold will that stop even one savage from cutting the hands off a woman before he rapes her? If these people can't afford guns they'll use machetes, clubs, and rocks like they have for thousands of years. If everyone stopped buying electronics today fifteen years from now not one life will have been saved. You can't civilize a savage buy boycotting Nintendo. It's an incredibly foolish and ignorant notion.

How old are you, 13?

how stupid are you? Show me where I'm wrong.

 

[omatic]

As if I give a shit about the Congo. The people of the Congo need to civilize themselves and stop acting like savages, raping and killing their neighbors. I'm not going to stop that by not buying a 3DS. Even if not one 3DS gets sold will that stop even one savage from cutting the hands off a woman before he rapes her? If these people can't afford guns they'll use machetes, clubs, and rocks like they have for thousands of years. If everyone stopped buying electronics today fifteen years from now not one life will have been saved. You can't civilize a savage buy boycotting Nintendo. It's an incredibly foolish and ignorant notion.

All that is needed for evil to prosper is for others to do nothing. It's a good thing you're retaining your shits on this issue. By your logic, we don't need to stop people who fund murderers and terrorists, because they're just gonna kill and terrorize anyway. I hope you're never in a position to make any important decisions that affect someone else.

 

[_Chaz_]

how stupid are you? Show me where I'm wrong.

You posted. That was your first mistake.

 

[p1ngpong]

Yeah just a tip guys, because this is really annoying. If you see comments that will more than likely get trashed or are trash worthy report them, don't go quoting and replying to them.

Use your heads a little next time.

Thanks.

 

[stinkoman]

Yeah, it's bad. I'm waiting for them to, you know, actually provide proof that this is at all an issue and not just a random post like 98% of groups/events/pages on facebook.

 

[Oveneise]

This is with a lot of stuff. If you own a cell phone, parts of those are mined from slaves in Indonesia. Nothing new.

 

[Slyakin]

Yeah, it's bad. I'm waiting for them to, you know, actually provide proof that this is at all an issue and not just a random post like 98% of groups/events/pages on facebook.

The problem is that they can be considered right.

Many electronics have conflict materials in them.

 

[DiscostewSM]

Nintendo requires its suppliers...

He called him a dumbass because he's making the assumption (to assume makes an 'ass' out of 'u' and 'me') that just because conflict materials "could" be used by Nintendo, he thinks they are. Even with an auto-reply email, they clearly state that they "require" their suppliers to comply with CSR Procurement Guidelines, not "hope" they comply. If they don't comply, they don't do business with them. Simple as that. If the supplier says they are, but are secretly not, then the supplier is to blame, not Nintendo. Same goes with any other company in this predicament who go by the same guidelines. If it is found out that the supplier was not following the guidelines, Nintendo (and other companies) will surely close their accounts with them. But, what about all the components they now carry that has the stain on them?

Throwing them away post-sale because they are stained with conflict material does nothing for the actual problem from the source, so they use what they have. If you found out your product contained material that came from the death of people after you purchased and received such material, would throwing it away help the situation? If anything, throwing it away would show your ungratefulness for the suffering the people went through that worked to get it to you. This "news" of Nintendo possibly using conflict material in the 3DS is only recent, while the 3DS has been in production for months.

There are several documentaries that contradict your assumptions:

Wal-Mart :The High Cost of Low Prices
Blood Diamonds - Sierra Leone

There are many others, but they are not as widely available.

Corporations will indeed make business with (unethical) entities to make profits. [Of course they will. I only pointed out that Nintendo says that they do not conduct business with those that are not up to the guidelines they set. To lie openly doesn't hold up in court, so why lie?]

On your second point, you assume the conflict and exploitation has stopped [I never said that. I said that their business with the supplier would stop], when in fact it hasn’t. You assume Nintendo is not making more consoles and it is not going to make more consoles in the future [As I never assumed that, that would be your assumption. They will continue to make consoles, but not with components from an nonconforming supplier]. I guarantee you, the amount of consoles Nintendo sells will determine how much more consoles the company will produce.

Ungratefulness? The suffering people are still suffering massive genocides fuelled by the sale of these materials. [They will still suffer if the materials keep selling. I'm talking about materials that have already been sold, not materials that could still be sold. They can stop buying after the fact, but suggesting to throw away the materials they have already in their possession (because they most likely can't get refunds) is why I brought up the comment of ungratefulness to those that suffered.]

@Fireballo You are f---ing lucky you live in the dominant majority. That is a highly racist comment.

Edit: @Fireballo's reply.

 

[awssk8er]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

 

[TrolleyDave]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

I think you're misunderstanding things here. They're not talking about the people working in the factories, they're talking about the people mining the raw materials. Have a read of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

 

[RoyalCardMan]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

I think you're misunderstanding things here. They're not talking about the people working in the factories, they're talking about the people mining the raw materials. Have a read of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

Oh, why can't people read more about the situation before posting.
Anyways, I would say that Nintendo doesn't really involve themselves in this kind of working. If they complain, they should complain to the other companies, not to Nintendo.

 

[Joe88]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

I think you're misunderstanding things here. They're not talking about the people working in the factories, they're talking about the people mining the raw materials. Have a read of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

was just about to post that

they dont have a choice, they are taken from their home and forced to work without pay (ie: slaves)

now the problem is nintendo is buying the mined metals, probably because I suspect its alot cheaper then buying it from a professional mining company

there is a list somewhere with all the companies that signed to not support conflict minerals

 

[twiztidsinz]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

I think you're misunderstanding things here. They're not talking about the people working in the factories, they're talking about the people mining the raw materials. Have a read of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

was just about to post that

they dont have a choice, they are taken from their home and forced to work without pay (ie: slaves)

now the problem is nintendo is buying the mined metals, probably because I suspect its alot cheaper then buying it from a professional mining company

there is a list somewhere with all the companies that signed to not support conflict minerals

No no no, didn't you read Rave420's post?
It's all a bunch of wild claims and conspiracies.
They're really just bums taken off the street PLAYING poor, famished, victimized miners in a semi-tropical "forrest" made to look like the Congo.

Ignore things like the New York Times and Steve Jobs of Apple and all the other things that have been linked.

[/SARCASM]

 

[twiztidsinz]

Yeah okay I'm at fault for buying electronics because people in the Congo are acting like animals killing each other That nation has tremendous wealth, that county could be incredibly prosperous. Remember America, Australia, China, and India were all colonies. This is just another look at the poor Africans situation and somehow we're to blame. It's a bunch of Marxist propaganda. These pepole would be doing the [censored] and kill thing with or without mineral wealth just look at Somalia. These people need to take responsibility for thier own actions and future. Not politically correct but true.

Congratulations on not reading or comprehending anything that has been said.

No one is blaming consumers for anything. This group of people is boycotting that these companies are acting like many of the users here: they don't care where it comes from or who died to get it to them, they just want it. Since 2002 there has been a way to verify if diamonds are Conflict Diamonds (also known as Blood Diamonds, which are a conflict material). These people want the same thing for the OTHER conflict materials which has nothing to do with consumers.
How they want this to do this is make companies like Nintendo keep a sort of 'chain of custody' for the materials used to create their electronic devices -- something that is already being done by other companies who are members of the EICC (like Apple).

 

[awssk8er]

This is ridiculous.

They act like Nintendo has taken these workers in as slaves to make Nintendo 3DSs for them.

They choose to work there. Whether it be a shitty job way below the standards that we feel are necessary, they choose to work at that factory.

I think you're misunderstanding things here. They're not talking about the people working in the factories, they're talking about the people mining the raw materials. Have a read of this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_minerals

Oh, why can't people read more about the situation before posting.
Anyways, I would say that Nintendo doesn't really involve themselves in this kind of working. If they complain, they should complain to the other companies, not to Nintendo.

I apologize. To be honest, I barely read anything on this.

I read the quoted part in the original post about the article, and a few of the posts and completely misunderstood the article.

Edit:

Oh yeah, forgot to say. I've known about this issue, and we talked about it in my Economics class.

Eh, it doesn't change my view on anything.

 

[steveo1978]

No where on the internet is there any proof that Nintendo has ever bought "conflict materials". The guy on Facebook does not work with the Enough Project he is basically just some idiot that like to accuse companies of stuff just for attention. Even if Nintendo did not guarantee that all the materials they use are not "conflict materials" that does not mean that they are using those materials. I do not blame Nintendo if they told the Enough Project if they did not want spend the extra cash to investigate each company that they bought a product from to make sure it was made with material that was slavery free. Companies can not make every single person on the planet happy.

 

[Kioku]

You have got tO be kidding me.... This year is all sorts of fucked up... Too many attention whores...

 

[MelodieOctavia]

If you took all the people from the Congo and moved them to a land with no minerals. no diamonds they'd still find a reason to kill each other. That's just how those people are. In some cultures that's just what people do look at Afghanistan all they have is rocks and they still find all kinds of reasons to kill each other. So these clowns blame the west, blame diamonds, blame capitalism. How about we blame the people in the Congo for running riot and killing. This is all just Socialist propaganda crap.

Jesus christ, pick up a book or something. Your ignorance is stinking up the place.