Question Getting my Banned switch online again.

Discussion in 'Switch - Backup Loaders & Modchips' started by johnyg, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. johnyg
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    Greetings guys id like to know if anyone had some knowledge on how id go about swapping out my Nintendo switches CERT so I can go online again. I have multiple switches I can dispose of. My son updated a backed up game through the Nintendos server :yayswitch:
     
  2. DaveLister

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    This is going to be fun !.

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    You cannot do that without Ninties keys which no one has. close thread.
     
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  3. chrisrlink

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    inside your crappy old PC
    lol have fun playing with your new brick
     
  4. RHOPKINS13

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    You can't generate a new cert without Nintendo's keys, but theoretically he should be able to use a cert from one of his other Switch units.

    It would be best to use a cert from a broken Switch, because if Nintendo sees both units online at the same time, it will ban them. Even if they aren't online at the same time, if it sees that they have differing information in their error logs, it could ban them. But I don't believe we have enough solid evidence on that yet.

    Unfortunately, there's no current way of doing this that I know of. And the only way I can think of to accomplish this would be using a CFW that allows you to swap out your cert on the fly with one from a file on the microSD.
     
  5. FAST6191

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    If you have multiple working Switches then easier to use one of those, or if the banned one has a nice screen, shell colours... then you could probably do a gut swap.

    Software means. From what I have seen it seems the direct overwrite is not going to happen, however with a bit of software fiddling it should be possible to do it one day as a software trick with a custom firmware. Nobody yet has really bothered to go there though.
     
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    Before this thread gets closed: You said you have multiple switches, why not simply use one of them? I mean why transfer a CERT from another switch if there is an unbanned switch right in front of you? Or in case those multiple switches are broken, you could change internals to get the one you value most working again. Optionally, you can beg Nintendo to unlink your Nintendo account from the banned console.

    Edit: Ah, i was too slow. Ninja'd already :ninja:
     
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  7. Jaisun

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    A banned switch is hardly a brick.
     
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  8. RHOPKINS13

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    Pretty sure he meant the brick that would likely result from trying to do stuff like restore the NAND backup from one Switch to the NAND of another Switch.

    Or perhaps just trying to inject the cert from one NAND to another, as it would invalidate Nintendo's signature and the console will refuse to boot normally.
     
  9. Jaisun

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    Good point! My apologies if I misunderstood! :)
     
  10. Canna

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    you say you have multiple switches, well swap the parts till you get a working one and use that as a legit or dirty console
    Don't bother with switch cert swapping. waste of your time,,,
     
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  11. chrisrlink

    chrisrlink Intel Pentium III Hamster inside

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    inside your crappy old PC
    but in truth unless we can transplant a cert we're unable to get around being banned unless you have a clean switch and use that online
     
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  13. FAST6191

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    Is it actually done? Your phrasing makes it sound like it is a possible thing you could do right now with enough effort (or effort less than create your own custom firmware with the capability). As far as I was aware it is still mostly just theoretical with a fair chunk of the exploration of the system done, or at least most of the major pitfalls known.

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    Nope not done waste of time trying to look into it atm.
     
  15. fragged

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    That's exactly what I'm going to do with a cheaper used legit Switch I bought on eBay. Screen has scratches, and my current hacked Switch is in mint condition. Swap the guts of the legit Switch into the mint one and vice versa. That way the scratched hacked one will pretty much always be in the dock, and my legit one for handheld I can stand to use (I'm OCD when it comes to screen imperfections). Already did the official Nintendo account transfer to get my legit BotW save from the hacked console to the legit one. I'm sure in doing so I sent all my data/logs from the CFW to Nintendo, but docked only a ban doesn't really matter to me. Made sure to delete all other save data, and tickets with tinfoil so nothing installed on CFW would be there to transfer over.
     
  16. The Real Jdbye

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    Cannot be done yet, because the cert is read only, so it needs to be patched on the fly in CFW.
    But it will definitely be possible in the future, just be patient.
     
  17. V-Temp

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    Unless you destroy the donor, it doesn't solve anything. You then just double the risk on the cert, and redundant certs trying to pass dauth is a recipe for disaster. If you were already caught and banned, why exactly would anyone donate a cert for you to be... caught and banned with again, forfeiting their own use of it for no tangible gain?

    The solution is largely meaningless and fleeting unless you destroy the certificate source, at which point... you just bought a second Switch or had one laying around.

    tls-cert outright revoking has been demonstrably slow/last ditch move by Nintendo, but anything that pokes dauth-services can (and generally is, see various things being moved behind dauth and becoming difficult to scrape) quickly be burned. Poking dauth with certificate redundancies is a good way to burn the cert's dauth permissions at least, if not outright result in a tls purge.
     
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    If you are willing to risk a few bucks, try suing Nintendo in small claims court for the cost of the Switch + tax and filing fees, etc. Odds are, they won't even bother sending anyone to the hearing because it would cost them more than you're suing for, and the judge may award a default judgment on your behalf. Then you just keep the new Switch completely stock for all your online play, use the other units for everything else.
     
  19. FAST6191

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    What? At this point people have a cert with each Switch they are free to value however they will (in my case I value Nintendo online somewhere around hahahahahahaha, and the scene will provide game updates anyway). Plenty of people have friends that don't care, little kids with offline switches (plenty of parents outright forbid online on things, free cert there), the occasional broken one they might be able to bring back for long enough to dump from. There is also a possible grey market to get going on (if I have something I don't care about but can dump and sell for a cool $20 then I will do that). This also leaves out the more blackhat methods; however many months from now when pokemon hits, make a hacked station which gives them a nice special event pokemon or something, get them to plug into this dock to get it (said dock of course includes some nice hack gear).

    Dual systems online with the same keys is doubling the fun as far as banning goes but it is not required by any means.

    I would agree at this point with nobody doing anything I would consider useful to figure the causes of these bans it would be tantamount to burning something, though something of limited value to a lot of people. If it lasts a few weeks though then that might be enough.
     
  20. The Real Jdbye

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    People who don't want to pay for online services may sell their certs, of course you have no guarantee that they won't sell them to multiple people or decide later on that they want to use online after all, but it's much cheaper than buying a second Switch.
     
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  21. guily6669

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    That already reminds me of ppl selling their X360 warranty stickers :).

    I still have mine completely intact somewhere...
     
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