Getting M2 and Square to localize SD3.

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  1. Stoopidfox
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    Was going to post this in the Reddits for /secretofmana and /seikendensetsu but they have a character limit...

    If you haven't heard yet, SQUARE is going to be bringing the first three Mana series games to the Nintendo Switch, but only in Japanese.

    The team behind the port, M2 (@hor11 on Twitter) responded to fan interest in an english localization by saying "IF YOU WANT AN ENGLISH VERSION, TELL SQUARE." And also that "IF IT DOESN'T EXIST, IT ISN'T IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE IT."

    So given that bit of optimism, I say send tweets to everything you can possibly think of. Anyone who has a twitter who was or is associated with this series. Regardless of who they are or what role they played.

    For instance, there is Hiroki Kikuta who did the musical score for SoM and SD3. He has a twitter @hiroki_kikuta -- he already did a big AMA on Reddit a while back, and in English.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/gamemusic/comments/1yr673/ama_im_hiroki_kikuta_the_composer_for_the_secret/ -- The guy either knows english or has a good translator working with him to do that kind of AMA.

    There's Ted Woolsey who did the english localization of Secret of Mana, his twitter is @ted_woolsey

    And let's not make the mistake of directing our tweets at @SquareEnixUSA. That's just a press bot. A bot isn't going to see our requests.

    We could also send our tweets to people who worked on the fan translation of SD3 with Neill Corlett. I have seen that Lina'chan (@linachanpr) expressed willingness to work with M2 (@hor11) on localization of the game if approached.

    We can also just gather up any fans of SD3 that we can and get them on board.

    The hashtag #localizemana is taking off beautifully. We just need to get more fans to spread the word and to get SQUARE to take notice of the fact there are many non-japanese fans of SD3 and we need to direct it at the right people.

    This is the link to the video that @Seiken_PR posted on Twitter of SD3 running on Nintendo Switch.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Seiken_PR/status/843658507719127040

    Go onto the comment section of that and LEAVE COMMENTS asking for SD3 IN ENGLISH.

    Maybe something in Japanese too, so they will understand it.

    (このゲームを英語に翻訳してください!!! PLEASE TRANSLATE THE GAME TO ENGLISH!!!)

    And this is the tweet where developer M2 responded to fan interest in an english localization of SD3. His reaction was pretty positive sounding.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hor11/status/849218230350602240

    Basically "WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSLATION, IF THERE IS ONE, SQUARE WOULD HAVE IT, NOT US, IF THEY DON'T, MAKING ONE IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE. BUT SQUARE WOULD BE THE ONES TO ASK."

    And ask we most certainly shall.

    The topic of the Seiken Densetsu Collection is making the rounds through all the big name gamer news sites like Kotaku and such. But let's also take into account that Square probably aren't googling around to see those articles and the comment sections of people asking for SD3 in english.

    As far as Square Japan is concerned, they probably don't even know a fandom for SD3 exists outside of Japan. I compare it to the Japanese Rock fandom. - Dir en grey didn't know they had fans outside of Japan. We had to show them.

    Once the band and their record label figured it out, DeG albums started getting sold in U.S. stores. They started touring here too. We couldn't buy what was not available to us. We couldn't go see a band that wasn't coming to our area.

    Same principle.

    Yes, we could just download DeG's music, but we wanted to buy U.S. releases to show support. Go to see them perform in our cities.

    Anybody can go find the rom of SD3 and apply the patch, sure... But isn't it high time that Square gave us an official translation and a way to buy it?

    Many on the hashtag #localizemana say they would buy a Switch ~JUST~ to play SD3. Clearly fans want to give Square their money for SD3.

    But they won't know that unless we TELL THEM.

    SD3 was hyped in an article in Nintendo Power in 1995. Don't believe me? Google image search for it. Instead of SD3 we got Secret of Evermore, which, while it was a decent game, it was not a Mana game, and it was not the sequel to SoM we were promised. Square now has a chance to fix their mistake and give fans what they want.

    If this localization happens and people buy the collection for Switch, MAYBE this might give Square ideas for future Mana games that would see the series return to it's former glory. (By former glory, I mean when the Mana series was still focused on action, cool options like leveling up your weapons and spells through use, and FLYING AROUND THE WORLD MAP ON THE BACK OF A KICK ASS DRAGON LIKE YOU'RE BASTION IN THE NEVER ENDING STORY....YEAAAAH!!!)

    Being a bunch of angsty, bitter "Square doesn't care about their fans" types is not going to get us what we want. Staying in our own sections of the internet and expecting Square to come to us and research the international fandom for SD3 also probably is not going to get us what we want.

    We have to dig. We have to message. We have to Tweet. We have to gather.

    #localizemana - #seikendensetsu3 - #secretofmana2 - @seiken_pr
     
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  2. cearp

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    it's a nice thought but thinking about this logically, the game is already (fan) translated, so if people want to play it they can.
    why not try this for a game that truly has no translation at all?
     
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    Because there'd be even less of a demand for translating it. This would be the first time the game would be legally released outside Japan.
     
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    Because people want the opportunity to purchase the game legally and have an official localization?
     

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    Top Hat Gaming Man touched on this in his latest video...
     
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    I didn't actually think you supported this. Guess I interpreted you wrong, Randomizer!
     
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    It's not that I don't support this, I just don't know how we can even spread the word to M2/SE, like, how though, is what I want to know.
     
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    I'm not supporting this for one reason.

    If everyone would support this, then Square actually translates this and no one buys it, what kind of message are we sending? I would love to play an english version of SD3, but I'm never getting a Switch, so I have to pass. Good luck on the project though! This is very well organized.
     
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    By going on their Twitter pages and dropping comments??? By sharing with friends who appreciate the series??? By spreading the word on Reddits for /secretofmana - /seikendensetsu - etc. And getting the attention of fans?? By getting the attention of people who worked on localization for SoM and sharing everything until something actually happens as far as a Yes or No on localization through official means???

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Seiken_PR/status/843658507719127040

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hor11/status/849218230350602240

    — Posts automatically merged - Please don't double post! —

    I typed all of that on a google pixel with the word prediction and spell check turned off.
     
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    Just a couple of quick things:

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    Don't do that

    2. Hashtags don't work here lol
     
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    I included that for people to use, all of the information is for people to use.
     
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    You know, i never really played this, i only ever play secret of mana, but i didn't know about the gameboy or GBA game, the game i played was notoriously hard, it was on android a few years ago when i did. I hope this game is better and more fair. Though if any game from snes needs to be re-released or localized is games like Terraingma Illusion of gaia, Soul blazer, and act raiser. The games made by that quintet company was like GODLIKE (Literally) Some people don't know about them but is worth playing. unique god simulation rpg games on snes, and terraingma was never released in USA, especially if it could been virtual console.
     
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    Terranigma is awesome, Illusion also awesome. Tales of Phantasia, also awesome, love the PSX remake, the GBA remake not so much. Gunman's Proof is also good, sort of Zelda-ish with Earthbound's humor and shooting guns instead of swinging a sword.
     
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    I for one totally support this idea. Secret of Mana was the first RPG I've ever played, and the Mana series has been close to my heart ever since. Luckily my son got a Switch recently, and he has no problem with me taking it over while he's at school to play games on it, lol.

    I used to be an admin for a Facebook RPG page that's currently reaching over 10,000 people (took a break for personal reasons), but I'm still close friends with the page creator and the other admins. When I get a chance, I'll run this across them and have them share the info.

    Regardless of whether some people think this endeavor is fruitless or not, there's no harm and no shame in trying. At the very least it'll get someone's attention and at the end of the day, progress is still progress.
     
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    YEAAAAH!!!!
     
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