Gaming Getting an excellent Desktop, Need serious help

[Madridi]

Hey guys,
I've been using laptops for a while, and honestly, they suck for normal home use. So i decided to get something REALLY good as a desktop.

So I decided to build this whole desktop from scrach. I know a few things about computers, but not that much advanced when it comes to specifics.
Where I live, parts are very expensive. So I'm willing to buy stuff online and ship them.

Currently, the only site that has reasonable prices and are willing to ship to New York (I have a mailbox there) are newegg.com
Now I need help picking out the parts. Please let me know:
- If there is a better website with better prices I can shop from
- The components I need to buy (I'm not sure what components I need!)
- Your opinion on the following items I'm going to post, if they are good, or if you would suggest an alternative


So, I picked out a couple of componentes

CPU/Processor:
Intel Core i7 - 2.8GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115214

Hard Drive:
2 x 1.5 TB Seagate Hard Drive - 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148337

Video Card:
GeForce GTX 295 1792MB DDR3 PCI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130504

Memory:
2x 4GB (2x2GB) Kingston HyperX (Is 4GBx2?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820104141

CPU Cooler (Do I even need this?):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835106102


That's about everything I checked out so far. I need everyone's help for the other stuff. I need a good motherboard, DDR3 supported (HDMI? 1080P?)


I would appreciate everyone's help.

Thanks

 

[DaMummy]

yea um, make sure you have enough watts to power all that, a big case to fit the huge geforce, and i would recommend water cooling if you know what youre doing and feel safe you wont make shitty water connections and have it leak. for computer parts, its newegg or nothing, when buying memory, dont look at how many GB, but the latency, the smaller the latency, the faster your memory will be. damn i thought my geforce 8800 gtx 600-some mb was the shit till i saw what youre buying...when installing mobo, make sure its properly ground to case, i made that mistake first time i put my so called machine together and i couldnt turn it on. if you plan on watercooling you pc, the gfx card is a bitch to connect to cooler, youd have to take of the fan on it, which voids the warranty and you need to glue on copper pieces to like 16 smaller chips on the gfx card plus the large water connection. and for what its worth, i think youre getting too much that youre gonna need for a while, ive got a dual core, my geforce 8800 and crappy 2x4gb memory and it runs anything i throw at it at max settings

 

[Madridi]

Thanks for the input DaMummy (where have I seen ya before? maxconsole psp scene?)
- Big Case, got it
- water cooling? I dont get that.. from what you wrote it looks scary. Care to link me to one?
- Can you recommend a Motherboard. Oh and I'll take it someone to assemble it I dont know how to do it myself
- GFX card hard to connect to the cooler? any cooler? or just this water one?
- Can you explain the whole latency vs GB in memory?

Last but not least, yeah I know I probably wont need any of this. But i'm tired of having to change my computers all the time. So i decided to spend hard, but on something that would last for a long time.. So I'm looking for the best.

I would appreciate your help if possible

 

[Madridi]

Can anyone tell me the difference between these 2 motherboards? Or recommend a better one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813188049
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813188039

 

[Splych]

zomg. Huge budget...

Lets see... Instead of i7, you could try AMD Phenom II X4 965. But most people would prefer i7... For me, I would go with Phenom II since it is cheaper, but the i7 is better for multi tasking. Your choice... It is faster by .6GHz but not sure about cache...

HDD, 1.5TB seems too big don't you think? I recommend 1TB instead. It is cheaper... And 3TB seems like too much space (IMO). For me, I would just get a 2x500GB, but maybe it is different for other people.

Nice RAM. Nothing else to say.

You need a CPU Cooler to cool the CPU. Wouldn't want it overheating would you ;P

Don't forget, you are going to be needing a case + PSU. Recommend a 600W PSU... And for case, what ever you think looks cool ^^.

Compared the two motherboards... The first one seems to be better... But I am not much of a computer pro. So I can't say anything.

 

[Madridi]

Thanks Splych,
yeah kinda big budget.. Not sure I will get dad's approval though lol

i7, for some reason i dont like amd, I like intel.. so i'll pick that

1.5 TB, yeah, its big, but then again i download a lot

I was initially going for 2x1TB, but didnt see that much of a difference price wise so i just picked that
seagate is a good choice?

as for the case, I need some help with that. As there are different measurements right? How would i know what's suitable for me?

Cooler, this looks good.. what do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835103055
do i need extra fans or something or will that do for the whole PC?

PSU, although its expensive, looks like this is the most reliable?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006


what else, dvd drive.. i'll take care of that later..
anything else??


Thanks for your help .. hope I get more inputs

Edit: oh and as for the motherboard, unless someone enlightens me with new info, I AM going with the first one. I get a 50$ discount if order it as a combo with the video card

btw, do i need a sound card or something as well? will I have USB ports on the PC?

(it's obvious that i'm lost right?

)

 

[Joe88]

DX11 cards are right around the corner
somewhat pointless to waste that much money on a DX10.1 card

 

[Madridi]

ergh.. double post

 

[Madridi]

sorry Joe88, but .. what?
can you elaborate please?

 

[Synchromatic]

sorry Joe88, but .. what?
can you elaborate please?

Graphic cards that support DirectX 11 are coming out soon.

 

[Madridi]

and will probably cost ALOT wouldnt it..?

 

[Joe88]

they are not gonna get much more expensive then $500, most Ive seen the most powerful card released was like $650 for a 8800GTX on release date after price gouging

but none the less the slightly lower end, right below max performance, should outpower that card for less

ati's DX11 cards will be out first, somewhere between now and nov
nvidia will release theirs in dec (est. might be delayed)

 

[Vidboy10]

DX11 isnt worth it.
DX11 is only worth it if your going to run stuff like Crysis.

Just get the laptop then install Hackintosh or Linux then you got a kickass laptop.

 

[arctic_flame]

Crysis doesn't use DX11, so that's a silly point.

 

[Vidboy10]

It's because Crysis can only run from DX10 or Higher.
And I barely know any other software like crysis that can run Above DX10 or higher

 

[Sir-Fritz]

It's because Crysis can only run from DX10 or Higher.

No its not, you can run crysis on windows xp.

 

[Vidboy10]

It's because Crysis can only run from DX10 or Higher.

No its not, you can run crysis on windows xp.

When was I ever talking about OSes?

 

[seedvt]

A few things to suggest.

The 1.5TB Seagates you picked -- they are from the infamous 7200.11 series. Many batches were spoiled because of a firmware bug. They should be okay now, but these drives are not very fast to begin with.

I suggest getting a few Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB or Seagate 7200.12 1TB drives.

With a budget of $1500, you can probably squeeze in the following:

Core i7 920
X58 motherboard
60GB Solid State Drive for OS (OCZ Vertex is a popular one)
2x 1TB storage hard drives
GTX 275
A Quality 700W power supply

And a case of your choice.


As far as motherboard selection goes, most boards are fine. They would only differ in terms of overclocking potential and number of PCI-E lanes (for CrossfireX or SLI). I tend to prefer ASUS and Gigabyte over most other brands.

 

[Madridi]

Thanks everyone,
here is what I am considering so far

- CPU/Processor:
Intel Core i7 - 2.8GHz
Price: $299.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115214

- Hard Drive:
2 x 1.5 TB Seagate Hard Drive - 7200 RPM
Price: 2 x $114.99 = $229.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148337

- Memory:
2x4GB (4x2GB) Kingston HyperX
Price: 2 x $103.99 = $207.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820104141
2x4GB does not exist, so it will take 4 slots for 8 GB RAM


- Video Card & Motherboard Combo:
Price of the Combo: $684.98 + Free Batman Game

- Video Card:
GeForce GTX 295 1792MB DDR3 PCI
Price without combo: $519.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130508

- Motherboard:
Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard
Price without combo: $239.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813188049


- CPU Cooler:
COOLER MASTER Intel Core i7 compatible V8
Price: $59.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16835103055

- Power Supply:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
Price: $119.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139006

- Keyboard & Mouse
Logitech EX 110 Cordless
Price: $29.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16823126174

- DVD Burner
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Burner LightScribe
Price: $33.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827140041



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- Total comes up to $1687
- Besides a case, is this EVERYTHING I need?
- In terms of price, these all have a good price?
- When it comes to cases, what specs of a case would I need assuming those are my components. A Mid Tower?

- Noted the feedback about the 1.5 seagates and might end up changing them. Noted feedback with GFX card as well
- The power supply, the one I picked is supposed to be a Quality power supply. Can anyone compare the one i'm linking to the one in the above post?
- Do I need a 60GB solid state drive for the OS? What would i need it for? I mean the 2x1.5GB could do what the 60GB does.. right? It's $200+ so I'd rather not spend money on that..

Edit:
Also, are there 2x4GB memory? instead of getting 4x2GB?

 

[Joe88]

you need to use triple channel memory

3x2GB = 6GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820227477
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231225