GBAtemp's Golden Threads Thread

[Foxi4]

But. I ran out of chips... D:

See, that's what Poortendo does to ya.

You ain't got chips, you ain't playin' - you ain't playin', you ain't a Player. ;O;

 

[chavosaur]

And that just ain't ballin'

 

[Foxi4]

And that just ain't ballin'

Only Players win... So yeah, not very Ballin'.

 

[NeoSupaMario]

Reminds me how terrible I was.
...and still am. XD but I have gotten better, right?
Also whatever happened to the "heartwarming thread?"

 

[Veho]

So, to get back on topic, we've got yet another OUYA thread.

OUYA to Refresh Hardware Every Year

Get your chips in early, folks, it looks like this will be a hoot and a holler.

Aw yes, this gun be gud.

And by "gud" I mean face-palmingly head-deskingly retarded. Not sure why it's such a red rag for this forum but you can't even suggest playing a game on anything other than a "big three" console without people starting to foam at the mouth.

 

[Foxi4]

It's not a matter of whether or not people think that playing games on devices that don't come from "The Big Three" is a good thing or not - it's a matter of whether or not an Android gaming device makes a lot of sense or not.

It hasn't even been released yet and it already has rivals in its own market, that says a lot. You have the Game Stick, you have the USB+HDMI Android sticks, you have the OUYA and what you also have is a fragmentation of the market. We've been through this before - during the great video game industry crash. Too many devices spoil the broth, and although "The Big Three" cause stagnation in the market, it's this stagnation that keeps it together.

I think the OUYA was an alright idea in the beginning although I always acknowledged that it won't become mainstream, that it will quickly become obsolete and that it probably should've been a software platform rather than a hardware device since day 1 - it's just something fancy to own for collectors and enthusiasts... but now that yearly hardware upgrades are looming over the horizon, I can understand why people are getting restless.

Personally I'll probably get one, just for the sake of owning it and putting it on my shelf. The problem I see with it is that it plays all the games that... I can play on the bus with an Android handset... and if I can do that already, and even connect it to a TV, what's the point in me getting another device that does the exact same thing? And I need a phone - that much is obvious, so the price argument doesn't fly very high here.

//Srs in EoF

 

[Veho]

it's a matter of whether or not an Android gaming device makes a lot of sense or not.

It does. It's cheap, it has games, it connects to the TV. If those Chinese Wii ripoffs and "10000-games-in-one" consoles sell, so will this. It's more a matter of "I won't buy it, therefore noone will buy it and noone should buy it because [reasons that apply only to self]."

We've been through this before - during the great video game industry crash.

Good. It's high time for a new one.

and although "The Big Three" cause stagnation in the market, it's this stagnation that keeps it together.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

It's this stagnation that results in $100 million titles and no place for "risky" "experimental" innovation in games. Kickstarter is one solution, new gaming platforms is another.

 

[Foxi4]

It's this stagnation that results in $100 million titles and no place for "risky" "experimental" innovation in games. Kickstarter is one solution, new gaming platforms is another.

What's wrong with $100 million titles? I enjoy my $100 million titles. As for "risky" experiments, Minecraft much? They're called "risky" because the developer takes a risk.

Also XBLA, PSN Minis/PSMobile, Steam Greenlight, iOS Store, Google Play store, Windows Marketplace. There is space for the upstarters, it's just that if you want to play the "video game developer" game, you need to abide by certain market rules.

That said, sure, OUYA could work as a low-cost gaming device, let's just not call it an alternative to "The Big Three" because it isn't one - it's an addition at best, gimmicky gadget at worst.

 

[Veho]

They're called "risky" because the developer takes a risk.

But the publisher doesn't want to take the risk, and the publishers call the shots, and you get a million Imagine titles and Kinect Star Wars.

As for "risky" experiments, Minecraft much?

Minecraft proves my point, doesn't it? It had no budget, it was made in a garage, and it was released on the PC, so it doesn't really disprove the "consoles are a horrible monolithic behemoth holding the gaming industry back" thing.

[srs-EOF]

It hasn't even been released yet and it already has rivals in its own market, that says a lot. You have the Game Stick, you have the USB+HDMI Android sticks, you have the OUYA and what you also have is a fragmentation of the market.

So it's all down to advertizing and marketing, and the Ouya has already gone viral. And they have the Double Fine Adventure lined up for launch and a lot of other smaller developers are really happy about the Ouya.

There's a huge market for cheap home boxes, there's demand (from both sides) to get the Play Store (and similar platforms) into the living room, and Ouya has a leg up in this race. So it will probably sell. And it will play games. And that is good. And other similar boxes may outsell it and take its place and that will be good too. [/srs-EOF]

Now, to reiterate my initial point, as it remains uncontested:

Not sure why it's such a red rag for this forum but you can't even suggest playing a game on anything other than a "big three" console without people starting to foam at the mouth.

 

[Foxi4]

*stuff*

Minecraft doesn't prove your point very well though - it sure as hell was made in a garage and if anything, it shows that with a proper business plan you don't really need a specific platform dedicated to give you "a boost" - it shows that anyone can enter the game at any time as long as they have a great idea, programming skills to make this idea a reality and dedication. Minecraft went absolutely viral not via a crazy campaign of adverisments or a dedicated framework - the gamers themselves did the legwork and distributed the news over the Internet, you can't buy that kind of a campaign for any kind of money and it's the most successful of all. To make things worse as far as your argument is concerned, that very same Minecraft was later released over the "Commercialized" mediums as well - it sure as hell is on Android, iOS and the XBox 360.

The fun part about this argument is that I will buy an OUYA somewhere down the line, not because I think it's a viable contender for the Next Generation crown but because it's a console and I love each and every one of them equally. With that in mind, I can point out its flaws - I'm a potential customer after all.

 

[Veho]

Minecraft doesn't prove your point very well though - it sure as hell was made in a garage and if anything, it shows that with a proper business plan you don't really need a specific platform dedicated to give you "a boost" - it shows that anyone can enter the game at any time as long as they have a great idea, programming skills to make this idea a reality and dedication...

...and a platform that allows open betas, crowdsourcing, freeware, using whatever development tools you want (Minecraft was cobbled together in Java), and lets you release a free pre-alpha to people to spread around and generate word of mouth... and that leaves you with the PC and Android. And no, Notch didn't have a business plan (Java, remember?), he was just playing around. No console lets you just play around. That very same Minecraft was released on commercial consoles only after it had become a huge hit and made a shitload of money.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

hey guys, srs in eof rite?

 

[ComeTurismO]

The Gaia Quotes page in Rydian have censored words about inappropriate language, such as cunt etc.
So, unlock your Poopymon hack topic.

Are you TaeWong's brother?

 

[Black-Ice]

Gaia Onilne has a very strong word filter that replaces the second third etc. letters with asterisks. For example, ass is replaced with a**, cunt is replaced with c**t, vagina is replaced with v****a etc...

This thread now became cool

 

[Hyro-Sama]

I've already warned you about posting in here, TaeWong.

Do it again and you'll regret it.

 

[ComeTurismO]

I've already warned you about posting in here, TaeWong.

Do it again and you'll regret it.

LOL, NOPE.

 

[Foxi4]

No... no, no, no! Not here!

 

[Black-Ice]

Well actually he was now banned in Minecraft Forums and Amaterasu Translations.

Really? How fascinating.
Please tell me, make this thread a better place

 

[Black-Ice]

Your post topic count will increase in the general off-topic forums, but your post count never increases in the Edge of the Forum.

I know right?
Its something they implemented ages ago. Because the eof is a spam board. see

 

[Foxi4]

Really? How fascinating.
Please tell me, make this thread a better place

Do you know how you kill kitten in a humane way when you have too many in a litter? You grab them by the tail with one hand and by the neck with the other... then pull sharply... and then you have kitten rag dolls. Am I crystal clear, Black-Ice?