Glad I have an alternative (rxTools ;P) until GW figures this out.
>>2ds 9.2 - 10.3 emuNAND launcher working - cia's, at least for me.
>>2ds 9.2 - 10.1 emuNAND launcher working + cia's, at least for me.
EDIT: Oh, and it's apparently the 'new Supercard DSTwo+' plug-in they're talking about.
>>2ds 9.2 - 10.3 emuNAND launcher working - cia's, at least for me.
>>2ds 9.2 - 10.1 emuNAND launcher working + cia's, at least for me.
Which CIA/Game were you using, if I may ask? (Just wondering, some boot into sysNAND after closing, plus mine don't or won't boot at all ;3)
EDIT: Oh, and it's apparently the 'new Supercard DSTwo+' plug-in they're talking about.
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Basically, don't use the DS2+ plugin with Gateway.
Gateway gives you some when you download 3.5. If you want more, you need to ask a hacker to make one or make it yourself.
It sure is. The tutorials here can be intimidating, but it's actually really simple. If your 3DS is a firmware between 9.0 and 9.2, you can even use themehax to do it. So you turn on your 3DS, hold L (or don't if you have the auto version) and it'll boot right into it! And obviously I have a tutorial on how to do it.
As for the space, the .cia files are smaller because the .3ds/z ones have dummy data to fill it up to a round number. For example, Pokemon X .3ds is 2gb while Pokemon X .cia is only 1.68gb. Now, in that example it's not too big of a difference but let's say a game only needs 1.05gb of data... The .cia version would be 1.05 and the .3ds/z version would be 2gb. And I'm using Rxtools on my N3DS and have never had an issue. It has the same boot rate that gateway had in my experience. And the fact that it's beta means nothing. ;PWell I haven't used CIA files out of Save Data Filer and Title Manager, I have never installed any games as CIAs.
Are they really much less spacy than 3DS/3DZ ROMs?
I used NDS Tokyo Trimmer for 3DS files and they do save some space.
I am avoiding rxTools at the moment because I am on a N3DS and for what I've seen it's still somewhat unstable.
Although, for my O3DS I do use rxTools now.
I have been seriously thinking about switching to rxTools completely and install all my games as CIAs while leaving my DS games flashcard in the N3DS so that I don't have to switch anything anymore., but rxTools beta is holding me back.
Yeah if you like the DStwo interface, go for it if you already have it. I just don't see why people'd spend money for it at this point unless they feel that RxTools is scary and they don't want to screw it up.
I think what most people do is go to a certain iso site to download .cia files and not worry about converting anything themselves. Because I've gone through the hassle of trying to do it myself before getting irritated and finding a .cia copy online.
Hm... I keep hearing this but I guess it never seemed like an issue for me. I can load up FBI or BigBlueBox or whatever, set it to download all .cia files, go to the bathroom or make dinner, come back to it being done and never have to worry about it again. I also assume that downloading eShop games would be muuuuch slower than .cia games. Plus that way it's all right there and I don't need a second SD card for the Gateway.
Anyway, thanks for the responses guys!
I'm actually sort of torn between buying a Gateway or just using CFW for my N3DS 9.0.0
I would probably be ok using CFW but after browsing around here for a while I've heard a lot of things like "only gateway can do that" or "you need gateway". Apparently Gateway is better than CFW at firmware spoofing and region free (at least from what I've heard). Gateway definitely seems like the more stable option, and I can get one for pretty cheap, so I don't really know what way to go atm.
If you don't own a Gateway card don't buy one just use rxTools 3.0b, you have all the time in the world to get it one day since your on 9.2 or lower just make a Nand backup and when its needed at some point you can get one.
try cfw, see if it does the job for you....if not try pick up a gateway, but tbh i think CFW would suffice for most people unless gateway comes out with a new USP like 9.3+ support
but the question is why are you even commenting here, you just spouting drivel BS, "UUUURGGH GW IS PIRACY, I WILL ADVERTISE CFW".....why not go do that somewhere then, hire a billboard, or wear a sandwich board sign and walk around town or maybe even just advertise updating and buying legit games if you disagree with piracy so much
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@Karuta i have cfw and gateway gateway is easier but if you want to play only gba, snes and so on (Virtual Console) than cfw is better
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Okay I said above that I wasn't going to fanboy RxTools, but since you still seem undecided, I take it back xD.
Go RxTools. Gateway is not better. What Gateway can do that RxTools can't as far as I know is play .3ds/z roms (which can all be installed as .cia files anyway). I don't know why people say it's more stable because I never have an issue with my CFW and it boots every time. If it ever doesn't boot, you can just turn off your system and try again (same deal with Gateway). Do you like GBA games? Yeah you can use the homebrew launcher to get emulators that are good, but not perfect. With RxTools, you can play them right from your system using the virtual console. You can't do that with Gateway. In addition you can also play DSi, SNES, NES, and I think Gamegear? I forgot what the SEGA one you can download is.
How about this... Follow the video guide that I posted in the post you quoted (or use a written guide if inclined) and set up your CFW. If you don't like it for whatever reason and see that maybe Gateway has something better... Then go and buy that. But give CFW a shot first. They use the same emuNAND and saves so you can switch effortlessly between the two.
You can trim .3ds to get rid of the padding.
Last .cia I installed was Senran Kagura 2 (because it has a bug were it crashes on exit, so you can't use the correct exit method all the time on Gateway). Senran Kagura 2 is a fairly big game (I think it's 2GB). It took 30min or so. Using a Sandisk extreme class 10. To do the .3ds takes a couple of min.
Of course I can just leave it installing while doing something else, but I don't want to pre-plan what am I going to play.
Why are we talking about rxTools in a Gateway thread?
And don't say some sort of elitist crap like, "rxTools trumps Gateshit in every way and it's free" etc.
And don't say some sort of elitist crap like, "rxTools trumps Gateshit in every way and it's free" etc.
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Actually it is relevant. The thread's about Gateway which means talking about the pros and cons of it. It's important to list alternatives. It's always better for the consumer to have more competition.
You can't have a discussion about Coke without talking about Pepsi.
Edit: I'm also being careful with my wording because I don't wanna come across as hating on Gateway.
but its easier to play online with cia. (cias uses your deviceheader)
if you want to play online with .3ds roms you have to inject a header (recommened) and its more complicated
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Don't bother waiting for Gateway to provide Gameboy Advance support, Retroarch already supports nearly the entire GBA library at 60fps.
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