Hacking Gateway PRIVATE BETA 2.3b

[y03usw6e]

actually being able to not use emunand would have a benefit now....atleast if you dont have your gateway card at hand and have emunand updated to 8.x, basically now classic mode will not work unless either emunand is on 4.x-7.2 or you have the gateway card inserted.......this could cause issues for people who dont have their gateway card at hand but want to play retail carts that require 4.x+ as you will be unable to boot classic mode

but really i cant imagine many people would suffer too badly with this, and if you do....well just pick format emunand again or keep a spare SD with your 3DS(but then you might as well keep the gateway card with your 3DS)

I'm almost positive that I read that classic mode will use emunand if the cart is in, but won't use emunand if it isn't.

 

[gamesquest1]

I'm almost positive that I read that classic mode will use emunand if the cart is in, but won't use emunand if it isn't.

nope, if your on 8.x and try booting classic mode without the gateway card in, you just get a black screen(as 7.x decryption is only allowed if the gateway check is passed before booting, and the home screen on 8.x is using 7.x encryption) once you boot though you can remove the gateway card and still use 7.x encrypted content

 

[OuahOuah]

I tried : I don't have a Gateway yet (shipping) and I can boot to classic mode with my 4.5 emuNAND
Don't have a retail cartridge with firm > 4.5 to test though...

 

[AngelZeo]

it is just a good idea to have a backup of your emunand, since, theoretically, if nintendo releases a new system update that gateway do not support, and you update to that, your emunand will not work.
- but if you had a backup of your emunand, you could simply restore your backup to your 8.1 emunand and you will be fine

i personally only have a 4.5 backup of my nand since that is the most important backup, and naturally i only update my emunand when gateway support the new version, so... i'm fine

Thanks for reply. IM just tryna understand. Let's say by accident I / someone updates the emunand to a firmware gateway doesn't support. Then technically even if I did backup the emunand, wouldn't I technically not be able to restore my emunand backup anyway since gateway would stop working? Also is there even a way to restore an emunand backup without some hardware modification?

Thanks

 

[gamesquest1]

I tried : I don't have a Gateway yet (shipping) and I can boot to classic mode with my 4.5 emuNAND
Don't have a retail cartridge with firm > 4.5 to test though...

4.x-7.x will work fine in classic mode without the gateway card, its only 8.x due to the new encryption that won't

Thanks for reply. IM just tryna understand. Let's say by accident I / someone updates the emunand to a firmware gateway doesn't support. Then technically even if I did backup the emunand, wouldn't I technically not be able to restore my emunand backup anyway since gateway would stop working? Also is there even a way to restore an emunand backup without some hardware modification?

Thanks

emunand is stored on the SD card and you can use emunandtool to write a backup......also having a bad emunand setup doesnt prevent you from entering the gateway menu to reformat anyway....it would just prevent you entering emunand

 

[MopSec]

Thanks for reply. IM just tryna understand. Let's say by accident I / someone updates the emunand to a firmware gateway doesn't support. Then technically even if I did backup the emunand, wouldn't I technically not be able to restore my emunand backup anyway since gateway would stop working? Also is there even a way to restore an emunand backup without some hardware modification?

Thanks

If you're on 7.1 and make a backup of your EmuNANDwith emuNAND Tool, then update the emuNAND to 8.X by accident you can just inject the backup back onto your SD card and it'll be just as if nothing happened. Making a backup of emuNAND and restoring it is actually very simple, just search the forum for emuNAND Tool

 

[AngelZeo]

If you're on 7.1 and make a backup of your EmuNANDwith emuNAND Tool, then update the emuNAND to 8.X by accident you can just inject the backup back onto your SD card and it'll be just as if nothing happened. Making a backup of emuNAND and restoring it is actually very simple, just search the forum for emuNAND Tool

Will that tool work for all emu and firmware a because I've only ever been on 4.5 emunand and now the latest 8.xx one

 

[OuahOuah]

Yes, if you made a backup with the emutool, you can make another of the 8.1 and inject the 4.5 after instead the 8.1

 

[cearp]

Will that tool work for all emu and firmware a because I've only ever been on 4.5 emunand and now the latest 8.xx one

sure, it doesn't matter what version the emunand on the sd card is, it will back it up
you use it on the pc, so it doesn't matter about the 3ds

 

[AngelZeo]

Ok i just used the emunand tool to back up my 8.1 firmware. To restore back to 8.1 encase i update surely its not as simple as just plugging the sd card into computer, using the tool and clicking on the 8.1 backup i just made then choosing inject?

 

[Mikecrowfone]

Ok i just used the emunand tool to back up my 8.1 firmware. To restore back to 8.1 encase i update surely its not as simple as just plugging the sd card into computer, using the tool and clicking on the 8.1 backup i just made then choosing inject?

It's pretty darn hard to update emunand accidentally. More likely you'll accidentally update system nand and have to perform a hardware mod

 

[cearp]

Ok i just used the emunand tool to back up my 8.1 firmware. To restore back to 8.1 encase i update surely its not as simple as just plugging the sd card into computer, using the tool and clicking on the 8.1 backup i just made then choosing inject?

that's exactly how you do it
but yes keep in mind that is emunand... if you update your actual system nand then it's not so easy

 

[Reecey]

It does not matter about updating your emunand accidentally or doing something wrong cause you can erase your emunand and start again, its pointless backing up your emunand you can't go wrong. Its your system nand that you have to take good care off.

 

[gamesquest1]

It does not matter about updating your emunand accidentally or doing something wrong cause you can erase your emunand and start again, its pointless backing up your emunand you can't go wrong. Its your system nand that you have to take good care off.

well its not exactly pointless, theres just very few reasons you would need to do so, but for example, my 7.2 emunand got corrupted and i had a 7.1 backup to restore....which still had the eshop tickets stored so i was still able to use pokemon online before the 2.3 FW was released....if i hadn't backed it up it would of been offline only

its never a bad idea to have a backup XD....unless its some sort of incriminating evidence or something

 

[cearp]

sure, although it is good to have a working up to date emunand backup because if something does go wrong, and nintendo release a new update that is not compatible with GW, then once you recreate your emunand, you will not be able to update using wifi, because the new update would not work. and you would be stuck on 4.5 emunand

 

[Doran754]

Quick question when updating the gateway. I've already updated so I guess it's too late but is it required each time to backup up the system NAND then format it. I didn't do that this time around because I assumed the very first backup of my 4.5 NAND I did the first time I installed the gateway exploit was enough also I wanted to keep my existing saves which it did.

You only need one back up of a 4.5 system nand, what would be the point of having more than one of the same thing.

 

[Reecey]

well its not exactly pointless, theres just very few reasons you would need to do so, but for example, my 7.2 emunand got corrupted and i had a 7.1 backup to restore....which still had the eshop tickets stored so i was still able to use pokemon online before the 2.3 FW was released....if i hadn't backed it up it would of been offline only

its never a bad idea to have a backup XD....unless its some sort of incriminating evidence or something

True for many but I always check here first to make sure the new update works with Gateway before I go ahead and do it myself and usually I don't even know there's a new update for the 3DS until I see it on GBAtemp first.

 

[gamesquest1]

True for many but I always check here first to make sure the new update works with Gateway before I go ahead and do it myself and usually I don't even know there's a new update for the 3DS until I see it on GBAtemp first.

yeah but like in my situation i knew not to update to 8.x and i didn't, the actual emunand somehow got corrupted so it wasn't booting properly i tried copying it to another SD to see if it was the card failing or the emunand itself, and it did the exact same thing on another card,

so its not only accidental updates or ignorance that having a backup would save you from, but also SD card failure/ firmware corruption of some form on the emunand itself, obviously now with the latest FW working on emunand everything is good, but if it ever gets to the point where we are stuck on a older emunand FW again basically a crapped out SD card would mean you loose all your eshop content you have bought in emunand until a fix is made(who knows maybe in the future there wouldn't even be a way to fix it).......you don't loose anything by having a backup (except maybe 200MB of space on your pc)

 

[Adr990]

Runs stable here, no brick as of yet.
Good thing I can now use my original MK7 save with the seperate v1.1 update.

 

[Reecey]

yeah but like in my situation i knew not to update to 8.x and i didn't, the actual emunand somehow got corrupted so it wasn't booting properly i tried copying it to another SD to see if it was the card failing or the emunand itself, and it did the exact same thing on another card,

so its not only accidental updates or ignorance that having a backup would save you from, but also SD card failure/ firmware corruption of some form on the emunand itself, obviously now with the latest FW working on emunand everything is good, but if it ever gets to the point where we are stuck on a older emunand FW again basically a crapped out SD card would mean you loose all your eshop content you have bought in emunand until a fix is made(who knows maybe in the future there wouldn't even be a way to fix it).......you don't loose anything by having a backup (except maybe 200MB of space on your pc)

I might just make myself a back up to be safe then. I never really gave it a thought as long as it worked on the FW it works on. cearp if your reading this can you read your message I cant PM you