Formula 1

[Pleng]

The way the Max/Hamilton incident was delt with was just odd.

It was noted but then decided no investigation necessary. I could maybe understand if it was investigated but then decided no action required... But to decide there's no investigation even needed seems crazy.

 

[Alexander1970]

The way the Max/Hamilton incident was delt with was just odd.

It was noted but then decided no investigation necessary. I could maybe understand if it was investigated but then decided no action required... But to decide there's no investigation even needed seems crazy.

Wolff/Mercedes already have claimed for an Protest,they have new and better Evidence.....

The fact that Mercedes is now making another attempt could be due to a circumstance during the assessment of the scene by the officials. Not every perspective was available to them during the race. "We only had the cameras for the TV broadcast. That is basically what we have continuous access to," says Masi. In the case of Verstappen, only the rear-facing onboard camera could be used for assessment at the moment of the duel. It wasn't until Tuesday that forward-looking perspective was also released.

 

[Deleted member 194275]

I watched through the F1 App (Brazilian broadcast is super annoying) and in any moment they showed the steering wheel of both drivers, that was odd. People can watch live on car of their choice on app, I wasn't doing that, but I'm sure someone was and have saved the footage.

 

[AmandaRose]

This picture made me laugh more than it should have lol.

 

[Pleng]

People can watch live on car of their choice on app, I wasn't doing that, but I'm sure someone was and have saved the footage.

Apparently the live camera being broadcast from Max's car at the time was the rear-facing camera.

 

[Alexander1970]

This picture made me laugh more than it should have lol.

View attachment 285269

 

[AncientBoi]

[throws confetti on the track, that has my phone number on it, to help find me a new husband]

 

[Deleted member 194275]

What the rule book says about double waved yellow flags?

 

[AmandaRose]

What the rule book says about double waved yellow flags?

OK never got to watch qualifying so guess there was an incident. Anyhoo from the rule book

Single stationary yellow flag means overtaking prohibited due to danger near the track. Single waved yellow flag means overtaking prohibited due to danger on the track. Double waved yellow flag means overtaking prohibited due to blocked track. At both flags, a speed reduction is required

 

[Alexander1970]

Grand Prix of Qatar​

Qualifying,after Q3:
1.	Lewis Hamilton	GBR	Mercedes	1:20,827
2.	Max Verstappen	NED	Red Bull	1:21,282
3.	Valtteri Bottas	FIN	Mercedes	1:21,478
4.	Pierre Gasly	FRA	Alpha Tauri	1:21,640
5.	Fernando Alonso	ESP	Alpine	1:21,670
6.	Lando Norris	GBR	McLaren	1:21,731
7.	Carlos Sainz	ESP	Ferrari	1:21,840
8.	Yuki Tsonoda	JPN	Alpha Tauri	1:21,881
9.	Esteban Ocon	FRA	Alpine	1:22,028
10.	Sebastian Vettel	GER	Aston Martin	1:22,785
Out in Q2:
11.	Sergio Perez	MEX	Red Bull	1:22,346
12.	Lance Stroll	CAN	Aston Martin	1:22,460
13.	Charles Leclerc	MON	Ferrari	1:22,463
14.	Daniel Ricciardo	AUS	McLaren	1:22,597
15.	George Russell	GBR	Williams	1:22,756
Out in Q1:
16.	Kimi Räikkönen	FIN	Alfa Romeo	1:23,156
17.	Nicholas Latifi	CAN	Williams	1:23,213
18.	Antonio Giovinazzi	ITA	Alfa Romeo	1:23,262
19.	Mick Schumacher	GER	Haas	1:23,407
20.	Nikita Mazepin	RUS	Haas	1:25,859

 

[Alexander1970]

If they again interfere the Championship,that´s it for me....I will not watch a Championship where the Stewarts and Teamprincipalsthe championship "decide" ........ no matter what the admittedly crappy set of rules is ...

 

[stanna]

I came to the conclusion a long time ago that f1 is as fixed as horse racing.

 

[Alexander1970]

After Verstappen,Bottas and Sainz are also under Investigation....

Worst Case - up to 5 Places Grid Penalty.

Nice,another "manipulated" Race is maybe about to start tomorrow...

 

[AmandaRose]

After Verstappen,Bottas and Sainz are also under Investigation....

Worst Case - up to 5 Places Grid Penalty.

Nice,another "manipulated" Race is maybe about to start tomorrow...

Wait a minute whst happened to the FIA only unfairly punishing Lando and Lewis. Have they brought out a new rule where other drivers now get unfairly punished lol.

 

[Alexander1970]

Wait a minute whst happened to the FIA only unfairly punishing Lando and Lewis. Have they brought out a new rule where other drivers now get unfairly punished lol.

Not unfair......3 Races left and only Stewarts Decisions after Decisions...why now ?
Let the Guys Race the last 3 Races and all is good.

Finally we have a Face to Face Final......

 

[Deleted member 194275]

Not unfair......3 Races left and only Stewarts Decisions after Decisions...why now ?
Let the Guys Race the last 3 Races and all is good.

Finally we have a Face to Face Final......

I agree that less rule enforcement the better, but Masi enforce too much every single rule except when Verstappen is involved.

Back on Austria this year, it was a 5s penalty fest. They ruined a very entertaining race. Last race here in Sao Paulo Tsunoda got 10s for a mistake in a very hard corner and we got no investigation for Verstappen going wide on the easiest corner on the track.

 

[Pleng]

Not unfair......3 Races left and only Stewarts Decisions after Decisions...why now ?
Let the Guys Race the last 3 Races and all is good.

Finally we have a Face to Face Final......

They already gave Max a free pass in the last race. I'm sure they'll find a way not to punish him for this incident, too.

I don't really see what your issue is. Rules are rules. Max clearly didn't slow down under double waved yellows. Drivers know that they have to slow down for single yellows, and abandon the lap for double.

Were you also upset when Lewis got a penalty for the same thing in Austria?

 

[Alexander1970]

They already gave Max a free pass in the last race. I'm sure they'll find a way not to punish him for this incident, too.

I don't really see what your issue is. Rules are rules. Max clearly didn't slow down under double waved yellows. Drivers know that they have to slow down for single yellows, and abandon the lap for double.

Were you also upset when Lewis got a penalty for the same thing in Austria?

It is not against Max or Lewis,but why now.....in the last Races ?

They (Stewarts) should had to do their Job over the FULL Season so meticulously accurate.
Now it looks like the Stewards decide the Final and guess what ?

We finally have a really good final and if Max / Lewis decide to knock each other out of the Races - THEIR choice!

 

[Pleng]

It is not against Max or Lewis,but why now.....in the last Races ?

They (Stewarts) should had to do their Job over the FULL Season so meticulously accurate.
Now it looks like the Stewards decide the Final and guess what ?

We finally have a really good final and if Max / Lewis decide to knock each other out of the Races - THEIR choice!

So rules should only be applied in the first 3 quarters of the season and after that we should have a free for all?

I'm confused at your logic here. Is it just yellow flag rules that should be ignored in the last few races? Or should we allow speeding in the pit lane too, for example?

 

[Alexander1970]

So rules should only be applied in the first 3 quarters of the season and after that we should have a free for all?

I'm confused at your logic here. Is it just yellow flag rules that should be ignored in the last few races? Or should we allow speeding in the pit lane too, for example?

You do not understand me:

Either the rules ALWAYS apply and in EVERY qualifying / race (how many "exceptions" have there been this year ...?)

or they should leave it.....