Hacking Flash carts illegal on eBay?

[ShAdOwFuRi]

So I've always been wondering about this... exactly why are Flash carts illegal on eBay... I'm assuming there's a particular section within the conditions of use that states it... Does anyone know it more specifically??

 

[ojsinnerz.]

Do you think selling an illegal product, is allowed on Ebay?

EDIT: It isn't illegal since it's been made to be used for homebrews and play backups. However it's being used for pirating, which is illegal, and most people think that's its only purpose. Therefore, it's considered "illegal".

 

[DeMoN]

Probably because too many people were scamming others with fake R4s and shit.

Flash cards aren't illegal by the way.

 

[Dark]

I saw someone selling a R4 on ebay a long time ago

 

[ShAdOwFuRi]

So I could put a listing up for an R4 right now... and it would stay up and I would not get harassed?? =D

 

[IceRentoraa29]

So I could put a listing up for an R4 right now... and it would stay up and I would not get harassed?? =D

No it wouldn't.

 

[cracker]

In the US they are considered illegal since they bypass protection (same as modchips). Yay for DMCA!

Also the EU has sort of used the DMCA as a draft for their own legislation: the EUCD. I think that a similar thing happened in Australia too?

So I could put a listing up for an R4 right now... and it would stay up and I would not get harassed?? =D

They have a lot of employees whose job it is to do nothing but search for contraband items. Also there are probably a lot of vigilantes who browse around and report items because they have nothing better to do.

 

[kevenka]

Anything that promotes piracy will get reported to ebay. Even if you state that it isn't meant to use it that way, if they see abuse with the item, they will take it off.

 

[cracker]

Anything that promotes piracy will get reported to ebay. Even if you state that it isn't meant to use it that way, if they see abuse with the item, they will take it off.

That's very true. I once had an auction for a PS2 net adapter pulled (after it had been bought!) because I said it allowed you to hook a hard drive up in your PS2 and run homebrew, etc. from it. I didn't say anything like you can play backups of all PS2 games or anything like that. Yet it got pulled. And it's official Sony hardware!

Idiots... I sent them an email asking why it was pulled and they basically sent me a form letter with the ebay policies and didn't answer my question directly.

 

[tenchan4]

I'm guessing its the same reason you can't buy a bong or crack pipe on e-bay either. You could smoke tobacco out of them, but how many people really will.

 

[Reaper]

I'm guessing its the same reason you can't buy a bong or crack pipe on e-bay either. You could smoke tobacco out of them, but how many people really will.

Nicely put. SELLING MEDICINAL MARIJUANA!!!
I still don't agree

 

[ShAdOwFuRi]

I think this is rather ironic because eBay is absolutely ridden with fake products.

OFFTOPIC: what does the medal under my name mean?? sorry i'm new here >

 

[cracker]

This explains the medals/ranking.

 

[UltraMagnus]

flashcards are not illegal, since the hardware does no protection bypassing, it is the firmware that does the bypassing

ebay has bans on loads of crazy stuff, you can't sell alcohol or anything from cuba on there either. and UK ebay you can't sell any kind of samurai sword

 

[zidane_genome]

i saw 2 modded PS1's on ebay a few days ago... not sure if they are still up... just search MODCHIP on ebay... see how many hits ya get!

 

[Perseid]

People have even had custom firmware PSPs removed recently.

 

[ShAdOwFuRi]

there's an M3 real on australian ebay!

 

[cracker]

flashcards are not illegal, since the hardware does no protection bypassing, it is the firmware that does the bypassing

ebay has bans on loads of crazy stuff, you can't sell alcohol or anything from cuba on there either. and UK ebay you can't sell any kind of samurai sword

Ummmm... What? I don't know what firmware you are talking about -- the DS's or flash cart's. Either way it is considered a device that 'circumvents copyright protection' which is banned under the DMCA.

 

[Seven]

Hell, the best way to sell a CFW PSP on eBay is to not blatantly advertise it in the title in bold. For some it'll come as a nice surprise, for others, they know where to look.

 

[bRKcRE]

there's an M3 real on australian ebay!

alot of sellers from aust seem to get away with it..back in october when i was looking on ebay for DSs, a fair amount fot the auctions i viewed obviously included flash carts, despite not mentioning the fact. how ebay is willing to let them put something like "comes with 150 games preloaded onto one cartridge" in the item description makes me laugh at the policies they have in place