1. Tonitonichopchop

    OP Tonitonichopchop GBAtemp Maniac
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    So in about two weeks, I'm going to be getting a 360 that RROD'd a while ago. I want to attempt to fix it, and I'd like some advice on doing it. Here's the materials I have:

    Thermal Paste
    Cotton swabs
    T10 and T8 screwdriver
    Flathead screwdriver
    Pliers

    I believe that's all I'll really need, but correct me if I'm wrong. All I really intend to do is clean the dust out of it (Which I'm sure there's a lot of) and apply new thermal paste to the CPU and GPU. I've also read that reflowing the motherboard is a good idea, but I don't know how necessary that is. I'm fairly confident I can do this as I am pretty handy, but if there's something you guys think I need to look out for, then let me know.
     
  2. DinohScene

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    RRoD consoles usually have cold solderjoints.
    You'll have to reflow (more permanent solution is to reball them) the GPU/CPU for sure.

    Also, mod the fans to 12V (to prevent it from dying quickly.
     
  3. Joe88

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    just replacing the thermal paste isnt really going to do anything, it will just rrod very soon if it doesnt from the start
    you are going to need a heatgun (the overheat gpu method is decent but the heatgun method works alot better)
     
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    OP Tonitonichopchop GBAtemp Maniac
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    Alright, so I think reflowing is feasible for me, but I'm not too confident in the 12v mod as I have no experience soldering. It would also require purchasing a soldering iron, which I do not have.
     
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    Soldering iron at radioshack or whatever you USA people have is like 10 quid? ;p
    Or borrow one from your neighbors~
     
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    On second thought, I think I'm going to try the non-solder method. Seems quite a bit easier, and I don't see any reason not to. But if there's a good reason I should do the soldering method, let me know.
     
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    It's best to solder the fans directly to 12V
    Don't play with other methods that can easily fuck up your 360 ;p
     
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    Just dropping by to offer a tip. I had an RROD on my Xbox and ordered the RROD fix kit. The kit included TWO alcohol wipe packets but when I opened up the console and tried to clean off the thermal paste, it was almost solid. I would strongly recommend ordering more alcohol wipes from ebay as well because that was the most tedious part of fixing a RROD 360 console.

    Personally even though it ended up working again, I don't trust this as a permanent fix which is why I just ended up selling it to someone else.
     
  9. Joe88

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    tapping into the 12v dvd drive line is fine
    I did it before, just need to be careful when stripping the insulation off the wire
    and a little bit of electrical tape

    you dont need to cut the wire off the original connector, you can just slide if out the plastic connector (so you can reverse it in the future)
     
  10. EMP Knightmare

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    Not for nothing but do you plan on using washers when placing the heatsinks back in the board? I normally use one plastic and one metal for each screw ^_^ But that's just me.
     
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    Actually, the Xclamps also put pressure at the back directly underneath the chip.
    If you're just going to put in washers and screws then the outer edges of the chips locations (near the screws) would start to warp towards the heatsink, putting strain on the middle part of the BGA of the CPU/GPU.

    So unless you have some kind of shield that puts pressure in the center of the chip at the other side of the Mobo then I would advice against doing that ;p
     
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    I just got learned ^_^ Thanx for the insight Dinoh
     
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    I'd personally recommend Goo Gone or similar sticker removal fluid, then clean it with rubbing alcohol.

    Also, the alcohol wipes aren't necessary, a paper towel or a rag soaked in alcohol works just fine. If you insist on the alcohol wipes, grabbing them from the pharmacy section of your local department store ought to work just fine (may or may not be cheaper but you'll have them then and there. For real though, isopropyl alcohol and a paper towel. Can't get cheaper than that.)
     
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    I just got a Xbox360 Phat RROD (3 red lights at start up) I took it all apart cleaned everything up heat sinks ect... did the heat gun trick applied new heat sink compound and put everything back together. When I started the console it does the same thing 3 red lights as soon as it starts, is there something else that may cause this or is the machine just dead?
     
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    Is it a Xenon console?
    If so, just leave it.
    Their going to RRoD again and again and again.
     
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    Yes it is a Xenon... so what now?
    I just don't want to toss it
     
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    It's financially better to just get a Jasper Phat or Slim one.

    Xenons are only going to cost you more and more eventually.
    They will overheat and RRoD again unless you profesionally reball them.
     
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    Seeing all the work people have to put in to fixing an xbox I don't understand whats the point of owning one in the first place. :unsure:
     
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    If you have nothing better to say then that, don't respond.
     
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    Xenon Xbox 360s can survive even though they are likely to overheat compared to later versions but if you keep it in a dust free spot, well ventilated and open it to clean and remove dust/dirt on a regular basis. I got multiple Xboxs, a slim, Xenon & Jasper, all working to date. The Jasper did red ring on me but after taking it apart, cleaning, heating the motherboard and replacing the thermal paste it turned out to be the damn power supply (power brick).
     
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