Faith or Atheism?

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DAZA said:
yuyuyup said:
If god exists, he or she is a dirty piece of shit

pmsl, that just about sums it up for me, i dont believe.. never have never will!

No problem. Be ready because dont tell me I didnt warn you. It did occurred to Noah who warned nonbeliever people what God told to Noah what will happen to those people and see whats happened ? You know the story ? Yeah. Think about it.. No ? Alright. You do whatever you want and be prepare. You will see.
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Mantis41 said:
dark ajax said:
Really, this post should have more options than just Faith or Atheist, cuz, you know, some people (including myself) believe in god through nature, reasoning, science, the complexity of the universe and perfection of life itself, but i dislike religions in general mostly because they thend to be TOO close minded and have a point of view like:
Why does faith have to be linked to a religion? If you believe there is purpose to the universe I call that faith.

Thats your opinion. Without a religion.. there are no faith. Being faith without a religion doesnt make a sense. Just like without the teeth you cannot chew meat. You must have teeth to chew the meat.
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EDIT: Oh yea, about evolution.. It doesnt existed. It is for atheist believer.
 
Mantis41 said:
dark ajax said:
Really, this post should have more options than just Faith or Atheist, cuz, you know, some people (including myself) believe in god through nature, reasoning, science, the complexity of the universe and perfection of life itself, but i dislike religions in general mostly because they thend to be TOO close minded and have a point of view like:
Why does faith have to be linked to a religion? If you believe there is purpose to the universe I call that faith.

Mmm, well right, but not in the strict sense of the word faith, it's like a BLIND belief in a supernatural that CONTROLS everything and everyone,
but all in all you have a good point...
 
RockmanForte said:
DAZA said:
yuyuyup said:
If god exists, he or she is a dirty piece of shit

pmsl, that just about sums it up for me, i dont believe.. never have never will!

No problem. Be ready because dont tell me I didnt warn you. It did occurred to Noah who warned nonbeliever people what God told to Noah what will happen to those people and see whats happened ? You know the story ? Yeah. Think about it.. No ? Alright. You do whatever you want and be prepare. You will see.
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The story of the magic tardis incest boat? Yeah, I've heard it. Are you saying I should base my life decisions off that tale? I think I'd rather take moral advice from something a bit more believable. Like Pokemon.

EDIT: By the way, like the way that the story of Noah's ark is now treated like some cute children's story about animals and rainbows, when it was actually about God massacring an entire planet full of people - the guilty, the innocent, men, women children, animals, evrything in an evil, spiteful rage.
 
dark ajax said:
It's simple, God=Universe Creator (not necessarily the mastermind behind everything happening here), you can analize the way everything in the universe just works ok in conjunction and for me is impossible to say that "Someone or Something" beyond us planed all beforehand, I just think it can't be just a HUGE series of coincidenses. So I'm not talking about an especific god or father or wathever, I'm just saying that everything works in conjunction because it's designed to do so, designed by the so called "God" (spectral force, an incorporeal beign, space particles that induce evolution, I don't know)...


Exactly my point, you don't know hence you say a creator did it. And you are also using Ordered-Theory, but do you know that even in chaos there is order? You will find it if you look for it, as the old saying goes.
 
dark ajax said:
Really, this post should have more options than just Faith or Atheist, cuz, you know, some people (including myself) believe in god through nature, reasoning, science, the complexity of the universe and perfection of life itself, but i dislike religions in general mostly because they thend to be TOO close minded and have a point of view like: "I'm on the right religion, everybody else convert to mine or you'll be screwed in hell" or shit like that, I do believe In a god, a creator god, and maybe a spiritual force beyond our knowledge, but I do think it's ridiculous just expecting to believe that the so called "God" expects us to be mindless blind puppets who just follow orders from spiritual liders and "magical ancestral books written by god inspired prophets", so for me is neither option in the poll, but i think being atheist is arrogant, it's simple I think the best way to believe in God is with our logical reasoning and just taking a deep reflection about the way things work on this planet, you know, the nature, animals, weather, space, life itself, etc.

P.S. Everybody can dissagree with me, but I think the most important is to respect everyone else's beliefs...
The poll is the basic of the basics.
Just like the last poll and the soon to be new poll, I only care about the most basic "How many"s and not the "Why?"
Thats why the chicken or beef poll did not include deer, fish, vegetarian, ect...
I know there are many belief systems out there but this poll is asking the very basic question of beliefs, something, or nothing.
I don't care what these atheists or believers have to say about their opinions, I just care about the "Yes or No" answers.
 
BlueStar said:
RockmanForte said:
DAZA said:
yuyuyup said:
If god exists, he or she is a dirty piece of shit

pmsl, that just about sums it up for me, i dont believe.. never have never will!

No problem. Be ready because dont tell me I didnt warn you. It did occurred to Noah who warned nonbeliever people what God told to Noah what will happen to those people and see whats happened ? You know the story ? Yeah. Think about it.. No ? Alright. You do whatever you want and be prepare. You will see.
lecture.gif

The story of the magic tardis incest boat? Yeah, I've heard it. Are you saying I should base my life decisions off that tale?

Incest boat ? Obviously, you dont know much about it. It is not about incest.. Where did you get that word from ? Nonsense.
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No, I didnt saying you should base your life decisions off that tale. What your life right now is a tale because you are too independent and you dont need invisible supernatural power in the universe when the time is come. This world is gone bad. Thats sign.. Just like what bible warned us about before. No argument. I respect your nonbeliever, thats all.
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Conor said:
Atheism wins?
Pretty much.
It already collected 100 votes.
But it was much sooner than I expected.
I pre-maturely ended Round 1 because it took a week to collect 80 people.

I'll start a new poll later tonight. Its going to be even more controversial.
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More controversial ? Srsly, what's more controversial than religion/faith ? Oh... Maybe politics.
 
RockmanForte said:
BlueStar said:
RockmanForte said:
DAZA said:
yuyuyup said:
If god exists, he or she is a dirty piece of shit

pmsl, that just about sums it up for me, i dont believe.. never have never will!

No problem. Be ready because dont tell me I didnt warn you. It did occurred to Noah who warned nonbeliever people what God told to Noah what will happen to those people and see whats happened ? You know the story ? Yeah. Think about it.. No ? Alright. You do whatever you want and be prepare. You will see.
lecture.gif

The story of the magic tardis incest boat? Yeah, I've heard it. Are you saying I should base my life decisions off that tale?

Incest boat ? Obviously, you dont know much about it. It is not about incest.. Where did you get that word from ? Nonsense.
smile.gif


No, I didnt saying you should base your life decisions off that tale. What your life right now is a tale because you are too independent and you dont need invisible supernatural power in the universe when the time is come. This world is gone bad. Thats sign.. Just like what bible warned us about before. No argument. I respect your nonbeliever, thats all.
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Firstly, see my edit

EDIT: By the way, like the way that the story of Noah's ark is now treated like some cute children's story about animals and rainbows, when it was actually about God massacring an entire planet full of people - the guilty, the innocent, men, women children, animals, evrything in an evil, spiteful rage.

Don't think I'd like to worship such a murderous, evil deity.

Secondly what I mean by magic is that it managed to fit two of every animal, plus food for them, which is simply not believable. What I mean by incest is that if there's only two of each animal, the only way to repopulate the planet is for their children to breed with their sisters or parents. Much like Adam and Eve's children.

Many religious people don't believe Noah's ark is a literal story either, by the way.
 
RockmanForte said:
EDIT: Oh yea, about evolution.. It doesnt existed. It is for atheist believer.
Have you ever wondered why there is a new influenza vaccine every year? That's evolution in action.
 
Magmorph said:
RockmanForte said:
EDIT: Oh yea, about evolution.. It doesnt existed. It is for atheist believer.
Have you ever wondered why there is a new influenza vaccine every year? That's evolution in action.

You made me laugh in real life, thanks.
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I'm going with faith, not giving a reason for obvious reasons.
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Magmorph said:
RockmanForte said:
EDIT: Oh yea, about evolution.. It doesnt existed. It is for atheist believer.
Have you ever wondered why there is a new influenza vaccine every year? That's evolution in action.
lol so thats why when people get flu shots they end up getting sick...it's a good thing i never get flu shots
 
I rather not belief fiction created by pedophiles to bash gay's and other non-believers.
 
syko5150 said:
Magmorph said:
Have you ever wondered why there is a new influenza vaccine every year? That's evolution in action.
lol so thats why when people get flu shots they end up getting sick...it's a good thing i never get flu shots
... No, that'sb ecause of the way a vaccine works.

It really baffles me that so many people here believe in some kind of God and actually saying that by thinking logically there is no other explanation for the creation of the universe.

"It can't all be coincidence"? Really? Why not? The chance of everything working out like it has is extremely small, but with a universe that is (to our knowledge) infinite, it doesn't seem too unlikely.

I've been raised catholic, but from the age of 12 my education has centered around the scientific methods. I've simply become too sceptic to believe something when there's no reason things couldn't have happened otherwise. I can understand why people choose to believe in a God, but thinking logically, I can't see how you can in the long term.
 
dark ajax said:
It's simple, God=Universe Creator (not necessarily the mastermind behind everything happening here), you can analize the way everything in the universe just works ok in conjunction and for me is impossible to say that "Someone or Something" beyond us planed all beforehand, I just think it can't be just a HUGE series of coincidenses. So I'm not talking about an especific god or father or wathever, I'm just saying that everything works in conjunction because it's designed to do so, designed by the so called "God" (spectral force, an incorporeal beign, space particles that induce evolution, I don't know)...
The universe is everything. If it was created by some entity, that means that entity was there while there was nothing. Religion is a contradiction in itself.

EDIT: And this.
King Zargo said:
I rather not belief fiction created by pedophiles to bash gay's and other non-believers.

EDIT 2:
syko5150 said:
Magmorph said:
QUOTE(RockmanForte @ Apr 30 2010, 10:29 AM)
EDIT: Oh yea, about evolution.. It doesnt existed. It is for atheist believer.
Have you ever wondered why there is a new influenza vaccine every year? That's evolution in action.
lol so thats why when people get flu shots they end up getting sick...it's a good thing i never get flu shots
Those stories are made up by some stupid way too religious person with the motto "if god wants you to fall ill, you fall ill"
Then I say: "If you believe in god, and he is great and omnipotent and benevolent, then if he wouldn't want us to find a cure against the disease, would we be able to find a cure?"
 
Demonbart said:
Those stories are made up by some stupid way too religious person with the motto "if god wants you to fall ill, you fall ill"
Then I say: "If you believe in god, and he is great and omnipotent and benevolent, then if he wouldn't want us to find a cure against the disease, would we be able to find a cure?"

Thats why those stupid people believes in the churches when someone lost a child or an adult and priest comfortable someone and tell someone that God wants your child or an adult to go to heaven. In the bible didnt say anything and never say anything. Thats why those stupid people are fools enough to believe anything. If priest tell them to jump off the bridge and go to heaven because God say so ? Yeah, think about it. *SIGHING* Churches are full of liars.
 
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