Yes, we all know that the R4 is well, dead. Though that doesn't excuse people to flame people who own an R4 or looking to buy one. Flaming people isn'thelp anyone and all it does is actually out people off from the forums. Yes, you can kindly state that the R4 isn dead but don't make a big deal over it, don't post a hundred times in the same topic that its dead, don't bash the person for it. Also don't go saying stuff like "The R4 is dead, get a CycloDS", if a person ask for suggestions for an alternate flashcard,then give it to them. STAY ON TOPIC, going on rants about the R4 isn't exactly staying on topic. People come here with questions so please answer them first. People are getting tired ot eh hostility towards the R4 users and actually putting people off visiting this board. So please, can you guys tone it down a little? Seriously, I'm getting tired of all the constant flames here. I should have to rash over 10 posts in one night in the R4DS discussion forum due to offtopic and flames. One last note, for the record I have an R4 myself which I got way back when the R4 was popular. Yes, I know its an old flashcard which don't really compete with the flashcards now a days, but overall, with YSMenu its still a decent cart for the casual gamer. Though yes, the R4 isn't being manufactured anymore and you will be lucky if any more official updates are made but don't flame and bash people for this.