ELSPA crackdown on R4 piracy

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here in Australia an average DS game (now i saying something that ends with a "Z") will sell for about $50, maybe $40 pre-owned.

Its ridiculous, piracy is so big now because,

A) after 10+ years the video game prices here have not changed, NES games retailed sold for $80+ back in the day, now the console games sell often for more $90-100.

B) this is the consumers way of controlling the market. We finally have a choice in how much we are willing to spend on games (in a way). Instead of saving up for 1 game 1/3 months, i can now play any game i want, and decide as a consumer want i think deserves my money.

C) The internet and flashcarts (R4) are so huge now most of the people that use them tell there friends how easy it is, then they tell their friends. It begins to snowball.


Basically you can relate this shift in control to the music industry, remember what happened with apple. They caught on to how the consumer was thinking and created and online pay for each song system. Still not many people follow that system much but it was an attempt at gaining a new market. There are other avenues now for musicians so i not too fazed.

Basically i support piracy with the idea that we are finally sending a pretty loud message to the video game industry, they are making much more money now, and the consumer wants cheaper prices. If they (companies) don't like it well then we will find other methods of "acquiring" said game. I still follow a general rule, if the game is truly worth buying i will spend the $100 on it, But its a rare occasion now (buying brawl and bought Orange box).

Unless the video game industry (i'm looking at N in this comment) don't drop their prices and make content available worldwide within the same month, piracy is going to start taking more and more money away from them. Sadly though they are not the only ones hurting. I really feel for the dev's on this one. Its hard enough making a game, but when no one supports it because they are fighting with N over prices and refuse to pay full price for a game. The devs end up copping it at a heavy scale.

I totally support what Steam has done with their online system, with MUCH cheaper prices and worldwide availability. I really think N should pick up their game with that wiiware and start dropping prices and reaching a worldwide market quicker, otherwise 3rd parties aren't going to want to touch their systems if N won't protect them against piracy.

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Long story short, imagine if Zack and Wiki had been dev'd by a new company and it was their first project, say goodbye to that company.
Nintendo, support your 3rd parties with STRONGER piracy prevention (what they are doing against R4 is a start...i guess). But most importantly listen to the consumer.
WE WANT GAMES CHEAPER.
WE WANT GAMES QUICKER.
WE WANT ONLINE CONTENT.


the fact that they have begun hitting piracy at alot of angles now suggests they are wising up to how the consumers system works. But instead of reasoning with it, they are fighting it.
HULK ANGRY.
DOWNLOAD EVERY GAME YOUR WANT, JUST SUPPORT THE ONES THAT ARE TRULY WORTH. If everyone followed this method things would be done sooner. Its just a shame things like R4 are profiteering of it.
 
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To be fair in North America, DS games are sold at qite a reasonable price. I see games like Final Fantasy Revenant Wings going for about $35 retail, and when it was on sale, as low as $10. I buy a bundle of DS games every now and then, I sometimes trade em out, etc. It is very affordable here...
That's because everything in the USA is cheap.
At least a lot cheaper than stuff in Australia/Europe, I've seen DS games going for $80 and DSes for $210.
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When I lived in America I got a new GBA game like every month lol.
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yes, this is the case, what nintendo does is "price freeze" the game for as long as they can, ds games gba games and gamecube games are still full retail price in most cases even though it has been a few years after it was released, nintendo have been taken to court for doing this but they still do it, they still think they can get away with ripping off europe.
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QUOTE(xJonny @ Feb 9 2008, 01:37 PM)Well the good console games are £40Â
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nah, if you look hard enough you can get console games for around £30, the good ones too, the handheld games shouldn't costs so much like they do now, it's ridiculous, they should really be in the £15-£25 range for ALL handheld games.
 
The high-street stores are partly to blame as well, they're the ones keeping the prices high years after a game's release which is scaring the average consumer into looking elsewhere. Online game prices aren't that bad, if you keep an eye on Play.com and don't mind waiting a little while they rotate their prices so you can get pretty much any DS game for £20 if you look at the right time. But when you take into account the DS's large audience of non-gamers who don't use the internet and parents buying for their kids you realise how much impact the high-street prices actually have.

Animal Crossing is the worst one, I spend 2 months looking for it at a decent price because it retails for £30 ($58) in most stores. Hell, Virgin/Zavii still sell it for £39 ($77). Completely insane. Trauma Centre still hovers around the £30 mark as well.
 
The only thing i fear is Nintendo making a great game be able to know if your using a flashcart or not. It is possible since the DS knows the difference. Then it could also get your adress and we'd be SCREWED!!
 
I still have N64 games with 70 squid price stickers on them.
Here, a DS Lite goes for $200 ($157USD), and games sell for $60-$120 ($47-$94USD).
No shit, I saw FF3, in Games Plus here in NZ, for $120. Fucking madness.
 
why don't you just import the games from some online store? i always order at play-asia.com, prices range from $30-40 depending on the game and shipping is $6. for example, you can preorder pw4 there for $30, which is imho a reasonable price for a good game like this.
 
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To be fair in North America, DS games are sold at qite a reasonable price. I see games like Final Fantasy Revenant Wings going for about $35 retail, and when it was on sale, as low as $10. I buy a bundle of DS games every now and then, I sometimes trade em out, etc. It is very affordable here...
That's because everything in the USA is cheap.
At least a lot cheaper than stuff in Australia/Europe, I've seen DS games going for $80 and DSes for $210.
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When I lived in America I got a new GBA game like every month lol.
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yes, this is the case, what nintendo does is "price freeze" the game for as long as they can, ds games gba games and gamecube games are still full retail price in most cases even though it has been a few years after it was released, nintendo have been taken to court for doing this but they still do it, they still think they can get away with ripping off europe.
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Well the good console games are £40Â
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nah, if you look hard enough you can get console games for around £30, the good ones too, the handheld games shouldn't costs so much like they do now, it's ridiculous, they should really be in the £15-£25 range for ALL handheld games.

Well, I mean like Xbox360, PS3 games are towards £40 at Game, when quite new and popular.

QUOTE(Renegade_R @ Feb 10 2008, 08:41 AM)
I have a feeling the TopToy and similar of the like are just designed to circumvent this.

Anyways...I hope they have success curbing the R4 demand...I can't stand people who know nothing about the scenes and downloading asking "Hey, how can I play free DS games? R4?"

I agree, I bet 80% of users of DS flashcarts now are people who don't really understand it, got told by a friend, etc but find it great that they can get this thing and drag and drop games and play - maybe the hard work on making it simple to use backfired as now it's attracting so much attention?
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Oh boy >_>

Looks like when my R4 craps out(any moment now...) I'll buy a Cyclo as a replacement.
 

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