Hacking Did I install my Wiikey properly?

[shtonkalot]

Don't waste your $$$...If the burn is 100% successful then the disc should work regardless of what brand of burner and what brand of dvd-r media you use!

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, have you ever heard of PI / PO errors? Know how do do a disc quality scan? Know what write strategies are and why they are used..?
Of course you don't. That's fine for you but don't spread misinformation just because you have no knowledge of the subject at hand.
If you would like to know more about why what you have said is complete rubbish then I advise checking out the CD Freaks Forums.

 

[dsrules]

You're correct! I've never heard nor I'm ever gonna learn of PI / PO errors?
But, that doesn't mean that I'm spreading misinfomation.
What I said is based on my experience with burning backups..done thousands of burns with cheap media on cheap burner (yeah, there might be a couple coaster in a couple hundred burns, no matter what medias u use, there'll still be coasters)
But, I never had any problems with them (if it's a successful burn) when playing.
So, that's just my cheap 2cents..

Oh well, even tho people uses the exact same hardware or software..some wil always have problems and complains with one thing or another...that's life!

 

[shtonkalot]

What I said is based on my experience with burning backups..done thousands of burns with cheap media on cheap burner (yeah, there might be a couple coaster in a couple hundred burns, no matter what medias u use, there'll still be coasters)I see a contradiction in there. You base your facts on your experience "with cheap media on cheap burner" and then proclaim that "no matter what medias u use, there'll still be coasters"
What do you base that second 'fact' on? Your inexperience with good quality media and or a good quality burner/s.

But, I never had any problems with them (if it's a successful burn) when playing.OK, again that is fine for you. Great to hear that you are happy and everything you've experienced is good and well. However this discussion is about trying to help someone who has experienced problems playing their backups. Others (myself included) are trying to help with our experience and knowledge of actually having the same or similar problems and having experienced solutions. In addition to this personal experience there is a wealth of technical information on the net for people interested in getting a better quality backup using different Hardware/Media/Software/Firmware.
In other words there is a lot of information that contradicts what you are suggesting. I called it "misinformation" and will stand by it.QUOTE

Oh well, even tho people uses the exact same hardware or software..some wil always have problems and complains with one thing or another...that's life!

Well that's a lovely motto and all but in my life things tend not to be so simple. "the exact same hardware" is never used by different people unless it is the one burner being used by different people. The 'same' software running on different hardware is being used differently too. E.G., If I run windows XP on an Athlon XP with an Nvidia chipset and a Promise IDE controller, is NERO 6.6.6 going to run the same for me as it does for everyone else?

My point is that there are reasons why things happen and it is usually not impossible for most users to diagnose the problems with what they have. Sometimes they ask for help and they get some good info. Sometimes they get some bad info too.

Anyway, sorry for the rant and please don't take it too personally.

 

[Hooya]

You're correct! I've never heard nor I'm ever gonna learn of PI / PO errors?
But, that doesn't mean that I'm spreading misinfomation.
What I said is based on my experience with burning backups..done thousands of burns with cheap media on cheap burner (yeah, there might be a couple coaster in a couple hundred burns, no matter what medias u use, there'll still be coasters)
But, I never had any problems with them (if it's a successful burn) when playing.
So, that's just my cheap 2cents..

Oh well, even tho people uses the exact same hardware or software..some wil always have problems and complains with one thing or another...that's life!

Never having burnt a coaster is hardly a mark of excellence. In 10 years I have only burnt two coasters. They were the result of me discovering that my new Sony DVD burner happened to not like a batch of Imation CD-R disks. So I just burn those on my CD burner instead. Problem solved.

That being said, all of my backup burns have been fine, but again, that doesn't mean the Wii likes them all. Some load a little, some give loads of DREs, once I found a combination that worked for me I stick with it until I run out of those disks. I found on my system that burning the games with Nero gave me worse results than Alcohol 120% with all other settings the same. go figure.

You've been lucky with your cheap media and found a source that provides something that's compatible. This is what I do with Audio CDs all the time, but I still find the occasional CD player that won't accept anything burnt at all. That doesn't mean it's a coaster, just a picky player.

 

[Louse76]

Your problem is the +R.


Not true. I have used almost exclusively +R and they have been more reliable than -R.

So don't speak like it's gospel.

Your problem is the +R.

I've used +R's from about five different brands on my Wii and have not had a single DRE.

From my personally experience, lite-on burners are not very good. While the burns work in DVD players and what not, they produce far too many errors, and thus are not good for things that have less tolerance for errors. Like a Wii(and especially the gamecube).

I would agree to an extent, but rather than saying they are not good, I would say that they are inconsistent and unreliable - I guess those qualities basically mean "not good" though, ha!

I had one that was perfect with Wii Discs, now it can't burn worth a damn, won't even complete burns. I've had other problems too. I think I'll be boycotting Lite-On soon, if this next drive craps out on me.

I'm at a point in my life where it's just not worth my time to deal with shit products.

 

[shtonkalot]

I burnt somthing on a verbatim DVD-R, which works Flawlessly. No disk read errors or anything, and it was with a crap A-Open burner that I got for like $100 a year ago from leading edge computers. DVD burners were alot more expensive back then... Yeah, and it was through a wireless network too, which I thought may make it a bit more dodgy, but I havnt had a problem with the burn since.That wouldn't have been the disc that wouldn't work in my Wii would it?
If so that is a good point to all those that think the answer is whatever works for them. My Wii console has had no problems playing discs of all sorts that I have burned including Verbatim -R discs with the same media ID that MADKATZ99 has used.
A disc he burned and tried on my Wii, it wouldn't even recognize the disc in the menu.
Likewise MADKATZ99's Wii has had trouble with a TDK disc that I have burned and used with no problems.
Different Wii drives will read discs differently too. It's going to take a little trial and error sometimes to get the best result.

At least it's nowhere near the trouble the GC had with backups.

From my personally experience, lite-on burners are not very good. While the burns work in DVD players and what not, they produce far too many errors, and thus are not good for things that have less tolerance for errors. Like a Wii(and especially the gamecube).

I would agree to an extent, but rather than saying they are not good, I would say that they are inconsistent and unreliable - I guess those qualities basically mean "not good" though, ha!

I had one that was perfect with Wii Discs, now it can't burn worth a damn, won't even complete burns. I've had other problems too. I think I'll be boycotting Lite-On soon, if this next drive craps out on me.

I'm at a point in my life where it's just not worth my time to deal with shit products.

Guys don't write off Lite-on completely.
They've had some fairly poor to average DVD writers that's for sure, but they have also had an active community of firmware tinkerers for years improving the drives abilities. They are also getting better.
Check out this review for a look at one of their newer burners. It seems fairly promising to me, maybe with newer firmware it could be an excellent drive.
The first Lite-on CD-RW drives were nothing spectacular but the last ones were the best writers out and were quite cheap too.

Boycotting Lite-on will be hard too. They manufacture drives for other brands and have started producing drives with BENQ now.
You'll need to check the model and google some manufacturer info if you plan on buying a Sony, HP, Gigabyte, TEAC, Imation or Phillips branded drive (among others) as they may be a lite-on in disguise.