Homebrew DevMenu as Launcher.dat possible?

[WateredFire19]

Just wondering :/ I know we can use ROP MULTILOADER .nds to run either a homebrew or a MT/GW launcher, and the MSET exploit has full kernal access, so can't we make a DevMenu/BigBlueBox as a Launcher.dat?

 

[gothicall]

Just wondering :/ I know we can use ROP MULTILOADER .nds to run either a homebrew or a MT/GW launcher, and the MSET exploit has full kernal access, so can't we make a DevMenu/BigBlueBox as a Launcher.dat?

Not too useful, actually DevMenu is only for CIA installing when you're on Emunand, so, if you have it as a launcher, you will be able to install CIAs, but not to launch them.

 

[Slushie3DS]

Just wondering :/ I know we can use ROP MULTILOADER .nds to run either a homebrew or a MT/GW launcher, and the MSET exploit has full kernal access, so can't we make a DevMenu/BigBlueBox as a Launcher.dat?

I'm pretty sure they'd become too large of a binary to work.

 

[WateredFire19]

Not too useful, actually DevMenu is only for CIA installing when you're on Emunand, so, if you have it as a launcher, you will be able to install CIAs, but not to launch them.

I dont really understand.... You'd just install them but not launch them?

 

[WateredFire19]

I'm pretty sure they'd become too large of a binary to work.

Couldn't we have a tool with little to no UI? (if thats what you mean) Like BigRedMenu?

 

[gothicall]

I dont really understand.... You'd just install them but not launch them?

No no, hum, when you use DevMenu you want to install CIAs as a channels, no? Well, the only way to open those channels is via Emunand. So, if you have Bluemenu as launcher.dat, then, how do you think you'll be able to open it if you use your *.dat for the devmenu and not for the launcher of the emunand? I don't know if you understand my point.

 

[Slushie3DS]

Couldn't we have a tool with little to no UI? (if thats what you mean) Like BigRedMenu?

Maybe, possibly. I'd talk to the Rin about that. I know Steve is developing a .CIA manager named FBI. You can talk to him, too.

 

[gothicall]

Couldn't we have a tool with little to no UI? (if thats what you mean) Like BigRedMenu?

Aaaaaah, ya, ya, ya entendí, you mean as a "multilauncher", like GW ones, don't you?

 

[WateredFire19]

No no, hum, when you use DevMenu you want to install CIAs as a channels, no? Well, the only way to open those channels is via Emunand. So, if you have Bluemenu as launcher.dat, then, how do you think you'll be able to open it if you use your *.dat for the devmenu and not for the launcher of the emunand? I don't know if you understand my point.

I understand Thanks for explaining But after it installs the CIA file can't you plug your SD card into your computer and then replace the CIA program Launcher.dat with MT's or Gateway's to boot into EmuNAND.

 

[WateredFire19]

Maybe, possibly. I'd talk to the Rin about that. I know Steve is developing a .CIA manager named FBI. You can talk to him, too.

Can you link there profile(s)? Thanks

 

[Slushie3DS]

Can you link there profile(s)? Thanks

Yeah, it's Rinnegatamante and Steveice10.

 

[WateredFire19]

Yeah, it's Rinnegatamante and Steveice10.

Thank you!

 

[Kafke]

I understand Thanks for explaining But after it installs the CIA file can't you plug your SD card into your computer and then replace the CIA program Launcher.dat with MT's or Gateway's to boot into EmuNAND.

In order to run the illegitimate CIAs, you'd need gateway (or MT) mode. Which requires a card, and you'd just be able to run devmenu on that anyway. Which defeats the purpose of using it as a launcher.dat.

No no, hum, when you use DevMenu you want to install CIAs as a channels, no? Well, the only way to open those channels is via Emunand. So, if you have Bluemenu as launcher.dat, then, how do you think you'll be able to open it if you use your *.dat for the devmenu and not for the launcher of the emunand? I don't know if you understand my point.

This is somewhat correct. If you make/find/install 'legit/clean' CIAs (which just recently started popping up online), you can install using devmenu, and then run using sysnand or even after a system transfer. This is because they aren't tied to the ticket and are signed correctly, so they can be run without the exploits. The trick would be installing them. Which devmenu could do.

Either way, there's not really a point to devemenu as a launcher.dat, since if you can run the launcher.dat, you can boot up into CFW or gateway mode and run devmenu in there (which would be needed for illegitimate CIAs anyway).

 

[madri1]

can we run in gateway mode without a gateway ?

 

[Garro]

can we run in gateway mode without a gateway ?

nope, you would need to install CFW for that.

 

[Kafke]

can we run in gateway mode without a gateway ?

Nope. But you can run CFW, which accomplishes the same thing (albeit on 4.X rather than 9.X)

 

[WulfyStylez]

This could work if you patched the system and booted back into sysnand instead of emunand, but at that point you can still just run devmenu...

 

[AtlanticBit]

why not try to decrypt any if these launchers, change some magic value to true(isCardInserted) and profit!

 

[WulfyStylez]

why not try to decrypt any if these launchers, change some magic value to true(isCardInserted) and profit!

I can verify that this works. Incredible. Thank god gateway's launchers are so simple to effortlessly decrypt and modify!

 

[AtlanticBit]

*cough*mt-card*cough*