Hacking Date changing app possible, in theory?

[themanuel]

I love using RawkSD but I'm extremely annoyed by the expiration date issue. The last beta released before the project was abandoned, has an expiration date, so the Wii's date has to be changed, in order to run RawkSD.

Is it possible, in theory, to write an app that will change the Wii to a specific date, launch RawkSD as a homebrew app (or channel), and then change the date back to the current date when RawkSD is closed?

I supposed it could store the Wii's current date before launching RawkSD, and restore it after RawkSD is closed, adjusting for time, if the game was played past midnight. Staying in the background while RawkSD is running sounds like a challenge, though.

 

[KiiWii]

unless you use your wii for emails (cant think of another reason), I dont see the point of an app for something you can do manually.

Why would you need your wii to be on the current date? Why not just leave it set to around X date that rawksd requires?

EDIT: I think I am not being clear... I just dont see that the date on your wii needs to be current to run/use anything other than email? correct me if i am wrong.

 

[themanuel]

unless you use your wii for emails (cant think of another reason), I dont see the point of an app for something you can do manually.

Why would you need your wii to be on the current date? Why not just leave it set to around X date that rawksd requires?

EDIT: I think I am not being clear... I just dont see that the date on your wii needs to be current to run/use anything other than email? correct me if i am wrong.

It's certainly not something that would cause people a terrible urge to fix, and I've had it with the old date for more than a year.
However, when moving files around for maintenance, backing up savefiles or even when curious about when was the last time I played a game by looking at its savefile, I'm shown funky dates. Also, somebody else posted a problem with Wii Fit's save files possibly becoming corrupted because of date changes, but I don't recall the details.

Whether it's something many people would want this or not is beside the point though. I'm still curious as to whether this is possible.

 

[Taleweaver]

Also, somebody else posted a problem with Wii Fit's save files possibly becoming corrupted because of date changes, but I don't recall the details.

That could've been me, though "corruption" is a bit overextending things. I said that if you start wii fit plus and its savegame has a future date*, it will propose to start anew. Which isn't something you want if you're working on your condition.




*considering you will have to change the date for the rawksd DEMO (as in demonstration) roughly each month, this will quickly happen

 

[giantpune]

is it rockSD that is complaining about the date? or the rockband game complaining about it when you try to play a song created with rockSD? or is it some other program somewhere else? i havent used the program , so im not sure how its all setup. but i bet a well placed "nop" or "li r3, 0" or something will fix it right up without having to keep changing your date.

 

[tueidj]

Or you could just use the latest build rather than an out of date demo.

 

[themanuel]

That could've been me, though "corruption" is a bit overextending things. I said that if you start wii fit plus and its savegame has a future date*, it will propose to start anew. Which isn't something you want if you're working on your condition.

I do believe it was you I read it from. Thanks for clarifying.

is it rockSD that is complaining about the date? or the rockband game complaining about it when you try to play a song created with rockSD? or is it some other program somewhere else? i havent used the program , so im not sure how its all setup. but i bet a well placed "nop" or "li r3, 0" or something will fix it right up without having to keep changing your date.

Thanks, giantpune, although you are giving me a bit too much credit, as I don't understand what that means. Are you thinking this could be added to the source code for recompilation or as an inilne argument of sorts? I believe RawkSD is closed source. Please elaborate a bit. I'm interested in your thoughts on this.

Or you could just use the latest build rather than an out of date demo.

Is there a newer build? If so, where can I find it?
I thought you folks had stopped working on RawkSD. I hope you don't mean the April Fool's upside-down version; my old RPTV is too heavy to turn on its head .
If there is an unrestricted newer build I can download, I'll be a happy camper.

 

[Taleweaver]

@[member='giantpune']: it's RawkSD. It was meant to be a test version. As such, it was valid for a month. The message even says something like that when you start it ("demo version expired. Please check the rawkSD site for future versions", or something along those lines).

@[member='themanuel']: sorry to crush your dreams, but there never was a newer version publicly released. There was a hoax 360-compliant version and maybe one or two other pranks, but nothing real. tueidj is just yanking your chain (he never said anything about it being online, let alone publicly available).

 

[themanuel]

@[member='themanuel']: sorry to crush your dreams, but there never was a newer version publicly released. There was a hoax 360-compliant version and maybe one or two other pranks, but nothing real. tueidj is just yanking your chain (he never said anything about it being online, let alone publicly available).

I figured he was just trolling, as he does it all the time with RawkSD related stuff, but I did not want to slam the door on his nose, in case he wanted to volunteer a file

That doesn't change the purpose of this post.
I figure either of these could be done, somehow:
1. a loader app with pre/post launch date adjustments
2. hacking the dol to change the date (probably far fetched)

 

[tueidj]

Wever: I think you're the one trolling here. There was never a so-called "360-compliant version", the build was named rawksd-xbox because it provided support for XBOX360 Rock Band drums.
The real beta testers know where to get new builds, the latest one came out at the end of last month. But if you're not one of them then you have no business using it. Support for RawkSD is no longer provided via this forum.

 

[themanuel]

Wever: I think you're the one trolling here. There was never a so-called "360-compliant version", the build was named rawksd-xbox because it provided support for XBOX360 Rock Band drums.
The real beta testers know where to get new builds, the latest one came out at the end of last month. But if you're not one of them then you have no business using it. Support for RawkSD is no longer provided via this forum.

You guys need to set your differences aside and provide me the latest build

Anyway, what's the story with RawkSD?
Are you folks working towards an eventual public release or is it now a private project and will never be released in the wild?

 

[themanuel]

I'm bumping this to see if anyone might be interested in tackling this.

Basically, I would love to see an app that changes the Wii's date to 01-Dec-2010, launches the RawkSD dol from sd/apps/rawksd, stays resident in memory and then changes the date back, when RawkSD closes. If something more clever is possible, like patching the memory on the fly to change the date, it would be preferable.

It has to use an official IOS to launch RawkSD because it checks and will refuse to start from cIOS's.

Would anybody be inclined to do this?

 

[JoostinOnline]

I believe that, to make it switch back and forth, you would have to run a separate app, or build the function into RawkSD. If there is a way to do it on-the-fly, I don't know it. All I know how to do is change the counter bias in SYSCONF, which would be permanent (at least until you change it again in Settings or using said app). Take a look at this for a few more details:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki//shared2/sys/SYSCONF

 

[themanuel]

That could be a way to go about it, to calculate and change the offset so that the Wii lands on the target day.

Unfortunately, changing RawkSD's code is not an option, since its closed source and all that is available out there is the beta with the date restriction, which is what I'm trying to work around. If changing the code was possible, then we would simply need to eliminate that expiration date restriction. This is why an external app would be needed.

Thanks for your feedback.

 

[jlv2]

The real beta testers know where to get new builds, the latest one came out at the end of last month. But if you're not one of them then you have no business using it. Support for RawkSD is no longer provided via this forum.

Where might support be provided?

The Rawks wiki hasn't been updated in over a year and a half. The last note on the Rawks3 beta page says "The RawkSD 3.0 beta is now open to everyone as of v3.0b4!", but that was in 12/2010. The "real beta tests" have really been testing for that long?

(Sigh)

 

[mauifrog]

Perhaps ios37 could be patched to return the needed date/time when rawksd checks? Not that I would no anything about that.

 

[themanuel]

Perhaps ios37 could be patched to return the needed date/time when rawksd checks? Not that I would no anything about that.

Sounds a bit scary, but intriguing and clever. I imagine that, if done correctly, it could be made so it only affects RawkSD.
The problem is finding someone to do this, since most people don't really care about RawkSD anymore.

 

[megazig]

the IOS doesn't return the time, and RawkSD wants a non-patched IOS37

 

[themanuel]

the IOS doesn't return the time, and RawkSD wants a non-patched IOS37

Yeah, I believe the last beta that was released did not need a patch IOS. I'm guessing it takes advantage of AHBPROT to do its thing.

 

[megazig]

none of the betas needed a patched IOS. they have their own exploit and IOS patches that they do