CycloDS Evolution v1.56 Beta 5

[Normmatt]

So stealth mode = clean mode? Assuming I'm understanding it correctly.

Yeah, sounds like a clean mode also to me, which is not really a new mode. But for the cyclods evo, it is.

I run those games in clean mode also on my EZ5 v2 whith a kernel released in october 2007 !
BTW, i'm glad to see that cyclops team has adapted this mode to the cyclods evo. I will give a try on mine.

@Rayder : clean mode is made to emulate a game as closer as the retail one which mean to patch the arm bin the less as possible, so no feature like cheat, softreset ....

Now i have a question about this stealth mode, will it need a fast microSD card like it was the case for clean mode ?

It isnt even clean mode, its being patched like normal just the enhanced features are disabled.

How exactly do you know this? Furthermore, if it is still being patched then how come the clean ROM's work, where as they fail on all other carts that apply patches (including AK2)?

They work on AKAIO you douche, This re-patches parts of the original code back into place after the cyclods patched in code has executed, this bypasses some of the checks but definitely not all of them. This mode is a failure and i'm surprised they coded it this way to be honest. There are far easier and more compatible ways of coding a 'stealth' mode.

 

[Uncle FEFL]

So stealth mode = clean mode? Assuming I'm understanding it correctly.

Yeah, sounds like a clean mode also to me, which is not really a new mode. But for the cyclods evo, it is.

I run those games in clean mode also on my EZ5 v2 whith a kernel released in october 2007 !
BTW, i'm glad to see that cyclops team has adapted this mode to the cyclods evo. I will give a try on mine.

@Rayder : clean mode is made to emulate a game as closer as the retail one which mean to patch the arm bin the less as possible, so no feature like cheat, softreset ....

Now i have a question about this stealth mode, will it need a fast microSD card like it was the case for clean mode ?

It isnt even clean mode, its being patched like normal just the enhanced features are disabled.

How exactly do you know this? Furthermore, if it is still being patched then how come the clean ROM's work, where as they fail on all other carts that apply patches (including AK2)?

I'm pretty sure (99% sure) he codes. He knows much more than we do (or at least more than I do, which is obvious).

 

[Rayder]

My point was that it's auto-enabling stealth mode even on the cracked versions of games when it's absolutely not needed, not to mention I saw reports of stealth mode auto-enabling on games that didn't need stealth mode in the first place. When this stealth mode is used on a game, the game will run sluggish. Cheat codes not working during stealth mode is just a sort of undesirable side-effect as far as I'm concerned. My suggestion to TC is to either have stealth mode be enabled manually and not automatically, or implement a way to bypass it for cracked games. Because it ruins COP as is.

They DO state that stealth mode is unoptimized at this point and is only in this beta for testing and feedback before being finalized. Regardless, I reverted back to the previous beta. All the games I care about work using a cracked version of those games and I don't lose any functionality, like cheats and the enhanced menu, nor do I experience any sluggish gameplay. The only issue I had with 1.56b4 was the brightness setting being disabled before booting a game, and there are very simple ways to workaround that. It seems to me that 1.56b5 is truly a beta tester's update created for the express purpose of receiving feedback on the new stealth feature and not for anyone who actually plays the games.....which, just by being a beta release, is implied anyway.

I already figured what Normatt said about stealth mode NOT being a clean mode was the case before Normatt even said it, otherwise they would have called it clean mode instead of stealth mode.

 

[DjoeN]

Sticking to previous kernel.

It's still beta and needs alot of improvement, but i'm happy to see TC still is working on it

 

[Canonbeat234]

Yeah stealth mode sounds like a temp bypass gimmick; I do get what old Ray is saying. The fact that stealth mode is automatically enabled on all the roms is an indirect option you're given even if you didn't want it.

I can see this being a new gimmick, its going to be mimic by other flashcard companies which might fail epically.

 

[Overlord Nadrian]

Ugh.

Why do they keep releasing betas? Just release something a little more useful... I know the nice thing about betas is that people can tell them about bugs and correct them, but TC only releases beta's and never a new full-fledged menu.

/non-Cyclo owner rant

 

[Eon-Rider]

never mind file trip has it http://filetrip.net/file.php?id=9074

Ah, I'm glad you noticed it. I forgot to reply back in this thread after uploading it.

 

[vergessen]

Ugh.

Why do they keep releasing betas? Just release something a little more useful... I know the nice thing about betas is that people can tell them about bugs and correct them, but TC only releases beta's and never a new full-fledged menu.

/non-Cyclo owner rant

I have never understood why non cyclo users complain about it. Why does it need a new menu? the betas are just that betas, don't like it stick with stable or a previous beta. their own release notes explain it is a test, not optimized and will cause performance issues. Hardly sounds like something that is production.

 

[Satangel]

Fack yeah, Cyclo team still rocks, now please stop with complaining that the CycloDS isn't the best anymore.

 

[ProtoKun7]

+1

For those that complain because the updates seem to take ages:

Quality, not quantity

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[Adr990]

Fack yeah, Cyclo team still rocks, now please stop with complaining that the CycloDS isn't the best anymore.

+1

 

[XtremeCore]

Fack yeah, Cyclo team still rocks, now please stop with complaining that the CycloDS isn't the best anymore.

Besides, I feel that this stealthing thing looks quite promising to me.

And, perhaps it has created a new term for patching games. Rather than saying patch the game, we could use stealth the game

 

[DeltaBurnt]

Fack yeah, Cyclo team still rocks, now please stop with complaining that the CycloDS isn't the best anymore.

+1

Well it technically isn't the best anymore. While I still respect the flashcart and that it does have alot of features, I just think it's about to be surpassed if not already.

Also the fanboys who think Team cyclops are gods and can hack the DSi piss me off alot.

 

[snarfo]

Might and Magic Clash of Heroes isn't working for me now... the Xenophobia cracked release was working fine on the previous beta, but using the Xen version or a clean ROM now results in a black screen after the first Elf training fight.

 

[Jakob95]

Fack yeah, Cyclo team still rocks, now please stop with complaining that the CycloDS isn't the best anymore.

+1

Well it technically isn't the best anymore. While I still respect the flashcart and that it does have alot of features, I just think it's about to be surpassed if not already.

Also the fanboys who think Team cyclops are gods and can hack the DSi piss me off alot.

Yeah me too.

 

[OunknownO]

Might and Magic Clash of Heroes isn't working for me now... the Xenophobia cracked release was working fine on the previous beta, but using the Xen version or a clean ROM now results in a black screen after the first Elf training fight.

same here...

 

[leiger]

Does this mean Spirit Trcaks can run without being hacked?
Spirit Tracks (USA) works fine - but not as a result of Stealth Mode. It was fixed independently and works, with the in-game enhanced features enabled.

Where is a link to download it please plus I can't register because it says I'm banned and I never even registered there before and it sucks because I can't even download it.
Try creating an alternative email address and registering with that one: Fattass.co.uk

QUOTE(Overlord Nadrian @ Dec 16 2009, 06:24 AM)

Ugh.

Why do they keep releasing betas? Just release something a little more useful... I know the nice thing about betas is that people can tell them about bugs and correct them, but TC only releases beta's and never a new full-fledged menu.

/non-Cyclo owner rant

I have never understood why non cyclo users complain about it. Why does it need a new menu? the betas are just that betas, don't like it stick with stable or a previous beta. their own release notes explain it is a test, not optimized and will cause performance issues. Hardly sounds like something that is production.

I'd rather have a bug fix for a game that I want to play, than a shiny new menu that is just for aesthetic reasons. Although a new one would be great, the current GUI works perfectly fine and I have no complaints about it.