Hacking Crediar Meets Resistance

[[Truth]]

If you want to know what Crediar aka BroadOn has to say, then go to #3dsdev. Like i said a 1000 times already.

 

[sightlight]

hacker gets sick of people in his butty.. *Hacker dont want to hack anymore* sigh...... peps............

 

[Nollog]

BroadOn doesnt exsist anymore

probably sick of all the threads.

Threads? I meant his twitter account.. Or did you mean threats?

What are you posting in?

 

[Quincy]

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If you want to know what Crediar aka BroadOn has to say, then go to #3dsdev. Like i said a 1000 times already.

On what server?

 

[WiiUBricker]

http://twitter.com/crediar

 

[Nollog]

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If you want to know what Crediar aka BroadOn has to say, then go to #3dsdev. Like i said a 1000 times already.
On what server?

I believe it was on EFNET.

QUOTE(WiiBricker @ Apr 23 2011, 08:01 PM)

http://twitter.com/crediar

Wasn't that the fake one from months ago?

 

[WiiUBricker]

http://twitter.com/crediar

Wasn't that the fake one from months ago?

No.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Can you provide any examples?
I could search and search forever. I just remember on TT's blog that they had mentioned something about it multiple times. But this thread does not need to become about King Bricker Wanky.

I will try to find some info for you and send it to you in a PM.

Edit; fine, I'll just post it up here. http://hackmii.com/2009/03/my-6-hour-trip-to-the-dark-side/

Time and time again, Waninkoko’s apps have just been thin wrappers around existing code or tools written by others. His Filesystem Dumper came about when I told him about the GID 0 TMD trick. WAD Installer showed up after I reverse engineered the ES interface and added the relevant functions to libogc. His first DVD warez launcher showed up after the IOS Module Toolkit appeared, to which he added DVDX and some old Gamecube code. And just now, his USB warez launcher appears mysteriously 22 days after a USB2 module for IOS was released.

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Now, this would ordinarily be just one more episode of waninkoko hyping up ad-riddled trivial warez-friendly applications built on top of other people’s code and work. [...]

I think marcan just doesnt like Waninkoko personally, really. Taking code from libOGC is not stealing. Why are people adding code into libogc? Because other people shall use it for their applications. And that's exactly what Waninkoko did. And he always has credited people in the readme files of his apps, didnt he?

Piracy utilities do nasty stuff to your system all the time, they're buggy, and they brick lots of people's Wiis. I'm talking about safety-critical bugs here.
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Loaders, besides typically illegal (they like to ship around chunks of IOS), are very dodgy and unreliable. System modification is required to install loaders, so it's an inherently risky activity.

That is simply not true at all. Loaders do not contain illegal stuff. They are 100% legit applications like any other applications that uses open source code. marcan just doesnt like them, but that doesnt make them illegal. Where is the proof that WiiFlow, CFG-loader, USB-Loader GX and other loaders contain illegal stuff? And they are not risky at all. All what it takes to run backups on the Wii is an IOS with patched modules installed in a free slot. Nothing risky there. I think the HBC with its current Network init issue is a much bigger risk than cIOS files and loaders.

QUOTEWaninkoko has repeatedly violated licenses and stolen code from others (first me, then bushing, then kwiirk with the USB stuff, as well as lots of other random bits and pieces) all while doing an insignificant amount of research and actual work himself [...]

Again, where is the proof? marcan is just doing baseless accusations here. All the code Waninkoko took was free and credited in his readme files. Anyone is entitled to use code in libogc. That's not stealing.


QUOTE(DeadlyFoez @ Apr 22 2011, 09:29 PM)

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USB loading or any kind of "backup loading" is not supported by the Wiibrew community because 90% of its users are massive pirates. If you want to legitimately use games you own from USB, you're on your own. Fair warning: most of the software involved is crappy, unstable, and/or dangerous.

Again, that's not true at all.

Bottom line is, Waninkoko did not develop a single application with stolen code. There's no proof.

1) Everyone can use code in libogc, that's what libogc is for
2) Credits have always been given in the readme files and source code provided through GPL license for most of his apps

 

[Annieone23]

marcan may seem to have a slightly unfair bias against waninkoko, and it may or may not be true about the code thievery. i really dont know cuz i really have no evidence or opinion for or against this.

but i do see marcan's side of the arguement where waninkoko's code has bricked machines from insufficient testing in the past.
never had any of marcan's coding so much as flicker while i personally have had waninkoko's codes freeze and crash multiple times in the past.

that being said. i like and respect them both. each has different skillsets and each has different opinions but also each has contributed immensely in their own different ways.
(for the trolls tho: marcan > waninkoko)