Hacking Crediar Meets Resistance

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As long as someones trying, I'm happy!
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Also, people saying that the PS3 security was so good that it required years to break, are wrong.
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Most of the hackers were happy with the OtherOS option until Sony decided to removed it. Thats when they decided to hack the PS3 to bring OtherOS back.
 

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Yes.. Other OS was good, until they removed it. They fulforce the console.. Lame Sony.. they sigged the whole even father...hoping Nintendo learned that one Sony's mistake..
 

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sightlight said:
Yes.. Other OS was good, until they removed it. They fulforce the console.. Lame Sony.. they sigged the whole even father...hoping Nintendo learned that one Sony's mistake..

May I...request better clarification of what you just said? My brain can't function this early.

And the 3DS has been out for less then a month. Give it time, people...it'll happen, eventually...
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Damn some people are smart... I tip my hat to everyone working on it. I wouldn't know where to begin... We just need someone who helped make the security to come out and talk... let's all chip in and offer a bribe, everyone has their price lol.
 

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I aree with you MADKATZ99 on the subject of price. I bet these flash card makers are eager to get a hack for 3DS games so they sell a whole new class of card ... to Quote the Home Boy Shopping Network... "Mo Money, Mo Money , Mo Money."
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hamato said:
Keva said:
Sorry for my ignorance, but is 'HMAC' pretty much unbreakable?

Runs your PC 24/24, 7/7 during a few months, years ? and you might be chance.

That the strengh of Encryption codes. They are vulnerable but you must be patient
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If it had to be done like that, would there be any way to have a bunch of computers work together to break it? Kind of like [email protected]? People could set their computers to work on it when they aren't doing anything.
 

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DeadlyFoez said:
Maybe someone should get Waninkoko over here to have a crack at the 3DS. Maybe while he is busy stealing other peoples code, he can brick a few thousand 3DS's so he can have yet another console under his bricking belt.

How can anyone 'steal' open source code?
 

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WiiBricker said:
DeadlyFoez said:
Maybe someone should get Waninkoko over here to have a crack at the 3DS. Maybe while he is busy stealing other peoples code, he can brick a few thousand 3DS's so he can have yet another console under his bricking belt.

How can anyone 'steal' open source code?
By not giving credit where it's due, amongst other things. I would consider that stealing the code because you are not following the full terms of using that code, but others may disagree.
 

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WiiBricker said:
DeadlyFoez said:
Maybe someone should get Waninkoko over here to have a crack at the 3DS. Maybe while he is busy stealing other peoples code, he can brick a few thousand 3DS's so he can have yet another console under his bricking belt.

How can anyone 'steal' open source code?
Open source means you contribute to the main thread on code, not fork it.
Though forks do form from open source, it's done with permission and consent.

I don't care or know if waninkoko does or doesn't do that, just stating how it's possible to steal open source code.
 

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DeadlyFoez said:
Maybe someone should get Waninkoko over here to have a crack at the 3DS. Maybe while he is busy stealing other peoples code, he can brick a few thousand 3DS's so he can have yet another console under his bricking belt.

Yes, let's get you into the hacking scene instead of waninkoko, because you can do it soo much better!

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Oh, wait, you can't. Even my dog can probably do more reverse engineering than you.
 

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DeadlyFoez said:
WiiBricker said:
DeadlyFoez said:
Maybe someone should get Waninkoko over here to have a crack at the 3DS. Maybe while he is busy stealing other peoples code, he can brick a few thousand 3DS's so he can have yet another console under his bricking belt.

How can anyone 'steal' open source code?
By not giving credit where it's due, amongst other things. I would consider that stealing the code because you are not following the full terms of using that code, but others may disagree.

Can you provide any examples?
 

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WiiBricker said:
Can you provide any examples?
I could search and search forever. I just remember on TT's blog that they had mentioned something about it multiple times. But this thread does not need to become about King Bricker Wanky.

I will try to find some info for you and send it to you in a PM.

Edit; fine, I'll just post it up here. http://hackmii.com/2009/03/my-6-hour-trip-to-the-dark-side/

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Time and time again, Waninkoko’s apps have just been thin wrappers around existing code or tools written by others. His Filesystem Dumper came about when I told him about the GID 0 TMD trick. WAD Installer showed up after I reverse engineered the ES interface and added the relevant functions to libogc. His first DVD warez launcher showed up after the IOS Module Toolkit appeared, to which he added DVDX and some old Gamecube code. And just now, his USB warez launcher appears mysteriously 22 days after a USB2 module for IOS was released.

The only strange part is that it took him all 22 days to get it to work.

All his later apps have included advertisements, and the official downloads all required signing up for his sponsoring site, which also requires that you sign up for an e-mail spam service. He’s definitely making a pretty penny out of his particular version of the “scene”.

Now, this would ordinarily be just one more episode of waninkoko hyping up ad-riddled trivial warez-friendly applications built on top of other people’s code and work. However, some interesting things happened. He hyped up the release date of the video on his blog, and the mass amount of page reloads around the time caused his sponsoring site to go down. They also claim that there was a DDoS attack involved. I followed this hilarious situation on the ElOtroLado forums, and correctly predicted that the hyped app would be a USB warez launcher before it was revealed. Of course, he is once again being revered as a scene god by those who don’t know any better.

It seems the comments on that blog post have been removed, or what else I was remembering is posted elsewhere. I'll continue searching. But I do specifically remember that he was violating GPL and not crediting those who wrote the original code that he has used.

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Taken from http://gbatemp.net/t182539-waninkoko-prepa...are-updater-4-2
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poppy11 said:
BBking83 said:
Dr_Hack said:
and why does bootmii dosent respond when i use my wiimote ? i cant press anything
You need a GameCube controller.
Or use the buttons on the wii console itself - power button to cycle through the options, reset button to select.

Just wanted to say thanks to Waninkoko for releasing this firmware updater so quickly. It's a shame that Marcan is slagging him off yet again over at Slashdot, spreading FUD that Microsoft themselves would be proud of:

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Piracy utilities do nasty stuff to your system all the time, they're buggy, and they brick lots of people's Wiis. I'm talking about safety-critical bugs here.
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Loaders, besides typically illegal (they like to ship around chunks of IOS), are very dodgy and unreliable. System modification is required to install loaders, so it's an inherently risky activity. About 50% of the reports of permanent bricks I get from people are due to using Waninkoko's stuff. Stay far away, he never learned what that 'int' thing before function prototypes is for.
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Waninkoko has repeatedly violated licenses and stolen code from others (first me, then bushing, then kwiirk with the USB stuff, as well as lots of other random bits and pieces) all while doing an insignificant amount of research and actual work himself, and he is sponsored by a website associated with modchip sales, has worked for modchip manufacturers, and adds advertisement banners to all of his tools. In fact, his first release of game-loading tools came about as a way to hit the modchip guys he worked for back because he felt they weren't paying him enough. One of his tools (a completely useless sort of survey he came up with, which he asked everyone to run) actually went as far as to open up the Opera browser on the Wii (if it was installed) to his sponsor's site.
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USB loading or any kind of "backup loading" is not supported by the Wiibrew community because 90% of its users are massive pirates. If you want to legitimately use games you own from USB, you're on your own. Fair warning: most of the software involved is crappy, unstable, and/or dangerous.
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I've yet to hear any report of a Wii being bricked by the HackMii installer (or any other prior versions, including the old standalone Homebrew Channel installer). So far, as far as we know, 100% of the Wiis bricked via "homebrew" have in fact been bricked via either dodgy piracy tools (the people behind them seem to go for insta-releasing to become famous, instead of actually doing that old thing called QA and Testing and doing things like checking error codes)

Marcan, thanks for your work, but I think it'ss time for you to take a big cup of STFU.

In the end, Skanky Bricky Wanky has proven himself. He is VERY uneducated and messes up big time many times over. I will never touch any bit of code that he puts his hands on because he steals most of it from other people and he does not understand the code. He has good intentions for the pirates, but he has miserably failed over and over again. I would not even trust him with the logo turtle.

As Marcan has said many times over, Waninkoko is VERY careless, hence why his apps have bricked so many wii's and PS3's. He is just praying to be a piracy god no matter who he has to steal from to make it happen.

I had respect for wanky in the earlier day until I understood what he was doing, and then his careless app bricked my buddies wii. It actually was because of him that I got into the brick fixing scene. I may not be a Dev, but I can certainly fix all of wanky's bricks even when he can... on any system. The guy is a joke trying to be a God. He just fails at everything that someone else could do safer and better. (Hermes anyone??)

OK, lets ignore his MAJOR wii mistakes. Wanky did nearly the same stunt on the PS3's and his 'trusted' software and bricked HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of PS3's. Wanky just wants to be a pirating god and release something better even when a viable solution for piracy is already available. He is too greedy and lacks enough knowledge to do it safely.

I have personally called out wanky on IRC and twitter threatening to give all of my customers his home address to send him the bill. What did he do? He hid for 6 months, and then finally came out of the closet and has not released anything since. He is just plain stupid and uneducated and hoping that his minor university knowledge is enough to make him a God once again. Wanky is an epic fail and I pray he never touched a line of code again.

Wanky steals code from ppl and prays that it will work. He really does not UNDERSTAND the code, but tries and finds a way to make it work even if it is buggy.

TT would not do anything like that ever. They do try their best out of passion, not out of trying to help ungrateful pirates.

In the end, I feel that wanky should leave every and all scenes and never look back bc he does not have a brain to make it all happen.

Does anyone else remember him dropping his mask while trying to give an anonymous video feed and caused an epic fail on his own part? He is just a blood sucking, code stealing, thief of a fail. There should be no respect towards him from any community.
 

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I agree with Deadlyfoez. Waninkoko is all of those things. Careless, greedy, and just at it for the pirating community's praise for his ego.

that being said, i do use his apps for cios's and even my ps3 cfw. he is rather trying at times, and rather quick to put out code before getting it tested properly. which is just plain idiotic.
but you cant say he isnt any bit talented. when he does it right, and when his code works it is pretty darn useful.

good example of Waninkoko's foolhardyness. His first ps3 cfw broke wayyyy too many consoles and was downright unfit to have even been released, but his revised version (which shoulda been the only version) was easier to install than other cfws like geohot's or keamu's and works flawlessly on my console.
 
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