Hardware Choosing Thermal paste

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It means the thermal paste intel between the die and ihs is still meh.

http://www.eteknix.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-delidding-analysis-make-difference/4/

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/02/02/intel_kaby_lake_i57600k_cpu_delid_relid_temp_results/

Whether it's the paste, or too much sealent Intel use to attch the ihs is still up for debate, but delidding generally still makes a big difference.

It's not worth worrying about anyway. Either you delid (and void the warranty) or you live with the junk Intel use. At stock, the stuff Intel use doesn't really make a difference, you'll still run well within thermal limits.
thanks for that, so it will not make a difference wasting 40 bucks in that high premium paste (well, in the graphics showed earlier it was not worth it anyway just to earn such small values)
because i can apply all the cooling stuff, the shitty intel paste will bottleneck it
 
AS5 is terrible now. It didn't used to be, but compared to the newer alternatives, it just isn't worth it. Capacitive, cure time, average cooling performance. MX-4 is what I recommend, as it is one of the best thermally, with no cure time, spreads nice with minimal pressure, and is pretty cheap.

However, like everyone else said, delidding is best, but dangerous. Especially for the Skylake chips and beyond, as they reduced the PCB thickness. I had a 4790k that I could not reach above 4.3GHz without hitting a thermal wall. After delidding, I was able to bump my OC to 4.7GHz on water, averaging 65C under full load. My delid saw temp drops around 15-20C. And to everyone who says that delidding isn't necessary after Devil's Canyon, you are wrong. There is a BIG difference between Intel's crappy stock paste and Coolaboratoy Liquid Ulta.
 
AS5 is terrible now. It didn't used to be, but compared to the newer alternatives, it just isn't worth it. Capacitive, cure time, average cooling performance. MX-4 is what I recommend, as it is one of the best thermally, with no cure time, spreads nice with minimal pressure, and is pretty cheap.

However, like everyone else said, delidding is best, but dangerous. Especially for the Skylake chips and beyond, as they reduced the PCB thickness. I had a 4790k that I could not reach above 4.3GHz without hitting a thermal wall. After delidding, I was able to bump my OC to 4.7GHz on water, averaging 65C under full load. My delid saw temp drops around 15-20C. And to everyone who says that delidding isn't necessary after Devil's Canyon, you are wrong. There is a BIG difference between Intel's crappy stock paste and Coolaboratoy Liquid Ulta.
thanks
AS5 is artic silver 5 ?

heh, no way i am deluding it.. it's a high risk for 350 bucks cpu...
maybe in 5 years or so when i need an excuse to get a new cpu\mobo...
 
Don't buy AS5. If you have it, use it up, but it's outdated.
Go with Gelid GC-Extreme.
There's a new one that EKWB started bundling with their coolers, thermal grizzly. It appears to perform better than any others, but I haven't seen a benchmark.

Whatever you use, use only a very small amount for best results.
 

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