Capital Punishment

[zeromac]

Why should you take away someone's life when they have taken someone's(s) life away?
Wouldn't that make you just as bad?

 

[Sterling]

Why should you take away someone's life when they have taken someone's(s) life away?
Wouldn't that make you just as bad?

For vigilante revenge, yes that makes you just as bad... Due process of law, no. They are two different things, but while that my be how I percieve it, many others do not see it on the same level as me.

@Dudeonline: Yea a hanging gone wrong is a horrible sight to see. I have see quite a few of those in Red Dead Redemption. Those aren't even fun to watch. When a hanging is done properly, there isn't even an error factor. When hanging was the preferred form of execution, they had specific things to follow, and charts to consult. Here is a procedural list of all the current death penalty punishments. I will say that it was hard for me to read all of that. Just thinking about some of the stuff people have done makes my blood boil, but when I think: What if that were me. I put myself in their shoes, and it really does scare me. It may not bother the murderers too much, but it is just overwhelming to think about being strapped to a chair and being zapped until you are dead.

 

[cobleman]

In clear cut cases (witnessed murders by 2 or more people) the death penalty should be swift and not dragged out for years on death row. Forensic prooven guilt is not conclusive enough and people should be jailed for life.

 

[Deleted User]

Right. And this thread would have nothing to do with my 'Temp Debates', no?

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http://gbatemp.net/t253198-temp-debates-9
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[Uncle FEFL]

Capital punishment has been shown to be an ineffective deterrent. It does not keep society safer.
Capital punishment (inclusive of "death row" and the repeals process) generally costs more money than detaining a prisoner for life. It does not save money.
Capital punishment can be done quicker and more importantly, painlessly using methods such as nitrogen asphyxiation. It fulfills a barbaric sense of "vengeance", ignoring justice and humanity.
Capital punishment has quite a few false positives over the years. You can release someone from prison, but you can't bring them back to life.

I think this man summarized the entire topic

Yea, just one side of the coin. Though I do agree with the second point. Hanging is way more humane, and they don't feel a thing.

After the invention of hanging a man or woman, a new idea was introduced in 1792 by the French, and it's called the guillotine. If you want to resort back to older barbaric ways, you might as well go back to the guillotine.

 

[Sterling]

Yea, just one side of the coin. Though I do agree with the second point. Hanging is way more humane, and they don't feel a thing.

After the invention of hanging a man or woman, a new idea was introduced in 1792 by the French, and it's called the guillotine. If you want to resort back to older barbaric ways, you might as well go back to the guillotine.

If you read up on it a bit, there have been several eyewitness accounts that the heads could still be alive. No one has ever debunked these accounts, even though a lot of experiments have been done to do so. So, these heads could possibly still feel pain, and react to the environment... even though the brain wouldn't function properly. Hanging can knock people unconscious immediately.

 

[MelodieOctavia]

Yea, just one side of the coin. Though I do agree with the second point. Hanging is way more humane, and they don't feel a thing.

After the invention of hanging a man or woman, a new idea was introduced in 1792 by the French, and it's called the guillotine. If you want to resort back to older barbaric ways, you might as well go back to the guillotine.

If you read up on it a bit, there have been several eyewitness accounts that the heads could still be alive. No one has ever debunked these accounts, even though a lot of experiments have been done to do so. So, these heads could possibly still feel pain, and react to the environment... even though the brain wouldn't function properly. Hanging can knock people unconscious immediately.

Yes, hanging CAN knock people unconscious, but again, it's not even close to fool proof, and even with set instructions, and diagrams, and shit like that, I imagine it would still have a high failure rate. (anything greater than 5% IMO is a HIGH failure rate)

 

[Uncle FEFL]

Yea, just one side of the coin. Though I do agree with the second point. Hanging is way more humane, and they don't feel a thing.

After the invention of hanging a man or woman, a new idea was introduced in 1792 by the French, and it's called the guillotine. If you want to resort back to older barbaric ways, you might as well go back to the guillotine.

If you read up on it a bit, there have been several eyewitness accounts that the heads could still be alive. No one has ever debunked these accounts, even though a lot of experiments have been done to do so. So, these heads could possibly still feel pain, and react to the environment... even though the brain wouldn't function properly. Hanging can knock people unconscious immediately.

Good point. However, I agree with dudeonline's point.

Also, what I'm trying to hint as is, although I wholeheartedly disagree with it, our newer methods of killing people are much more efficient. As technology improves, so do our methods of murder. There's a reason the noose is no longer in practice, several actually.

 

[Sterling]

Yea, just one side of the coin. Though I do agree with the second point. Hanging is way more humane, and they don't feel a thing.

After the invention of hanging a man or woman, a new idea was introduced in 1792 by the French, and it's called the guillotine. If you want to resort back to older barbaric ways, you might as well go back to the guillotine.

If you read up on it a bit, there have been several eyewitness accounts that the heads could still be alive. No one has ever debunked these accounts, even though a lot of experiments have been done to do so. So, these heads could possibly still feel pain, and react to the environment... even though the brain wouldn't function properly. Hanging can knock people unconscious immediately.

Good point. However, I agree with dudeonline's point.

Also, what I'm trying to hint as is, although I wholeheartedly disagree with it, our newer methods of killing people are much more efficient. As technology improves, so do our methods of murder. There's a reason the noose is no longer in practice, several actually.

Well, I guess you're right. I just think efficiency of hanging could improved now... with modern materials and such. Would still be cheaper and probably could be achieved with less pain.