Can't decide between Arm9loaderhax and Menuhax!?!

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by perspex, Jul 23, 2016.

  1. perspex
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    Hey guys, I just recently got into the 3ds hacking scene and successfully modded my o3ds with menuhax and luma3ds with coldbooting and all that jazz and i'm loving the heck outta it.

    In fact i liked it so much i went ahead and ordered a new 3ds xl(black) and its coming in a few days(YAYYYYY!). Now im just torn between whether to use the arm9loaderhax or should i just continue using the menuhax like i did on my o3ds.

    I know this is dumb to ask and its upto me to decide, but i still want an opinion! cos this arm9loaderhax looks solid AF! but what if it becomes patched or obsolete later on, I won't even have a stock fw anymore.

    The whole installation method also seems much more complicated and risky for arm9loader but if its actually worth all the hubbub, im willing to do.

    So far my main needs to playing roms and online is fulfilled with menuhax, but the 100% boot rate and stuff is tempting too.

    I'm so confused, enlighten me O great 3ds masters.
     


  2. TheGreek Boy

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    if you want only to play games use menuhax with luma
     
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    A9LH will probably never be patched.

    If you're willing to do it, then absolutely do it.
     
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    menuhax with luma.
     
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    A9LH>Menuhax
     
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    Please do not state that as fact. It is possible to stop as devs have pointed out before, its difficult to take down but not impossible.
     
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    As it's going to be your second console and possible end up as your main console, you could take your time and setup Arm9loaderhax as that is the superior hack.

    Menuhax is not as bad as people on here make out through, ninjhax 2.7 with no debug colors or text boot's pretty much 99% of the time on my mum's original 3DS, it's very rare that fails.

    If you have the time go with Arm9loaderhax, if not Menuhax will do fine until you have more time.
     
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    I can play all the games that I want with Menuhax. If you still want to keep your stock fw then menuhax is best for you. IMHO.. I do not find anything special yet on A9LH :) But it's just me. You can still go for it if you want to try :)
     
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    Seems I'm even noob-er than you. From what I've seen on Plailect guide, you'd have to use both anyway? I haven't actually gotten that far yet, I'm stuck on the Browserhax thing (Part 1).
     
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    A "probably" in there probably would've done some good, you're right. *Quickly edits*
    Statement still stands, though. Definitely worth the time, given the effort.
     
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    What does only play games mean....what extra thing can i do with the arm9 that i cant do with menuhax and luma3ds? This is the stuff i exactly wanna knowwwww
     
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    Arm9loader is an amazing mod but it certainly is not bulletproof. You still need to proceed with caution with each passing firmware update and always make a backup. Thats the best anyone can do.

    The day it ever does get patched we may all have to go back to 9.2 (or stay at 11.0) and stick with emuNAND.
     
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    About as possible as Menuhax being patched.
    Nintendo would need to somehow execute an arm9 exploit to take back control of the system from the CFW, then somehow swap the cfw for latest stock firmware. Hardly even worth talking about really, beyond infeasable.

    Benifits of a9lh also include:
    No risk of losing cfw by updating sysnand.
    No need to double install dsi ware and gba vc.
    Perfect boot rate miliseconds slower than stock. (Vs Menuhax which is about 15 seconds slower)
    And soon (TM) booting without an sd card.
     
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    You can have a CFW in your NAND, updated sysnand with A9LH (ver. 11 with hax), brick proofing, arm9 access before boot of OS, boot animations and more!
     
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    I believe booting without SD card has been possible for Arm9loader users. I've been lazy with updating my arm9loader firmware but the devs in #3DShacks can confirm an update has allowed you to run without SD.

    Dont forget to add restoring a backup without a hardmod, thats a super important benefit for arm9loader users.
     
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    yes my o3ds xl boot without sd
     
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    Yeah. But is it in the stable release branch yet? I wouldn't recommend any other branch to non-hardmod users.

    Edit

    @perspex how often to you cold boot your console? Do you plan on using dsi ware or gba vc? These are the main advantages a9lh has over Menuhax for the end user.
     
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    i'm using this since it was posted on reddit. i have to say it's very stable
     
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    For me too, its stable af. Also, CFW in the NAAAANNNDDD
     
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    Once you have your OTP you'll always be able to (re)install A9LH, getting OTP however won't be possible on the latest firmware once they block the hardmod/DSiWare downgrade methods. The exploit itself isn't patchable without a new hardware revision but without OTP it won't do much good.