Can PAl region Gamecube display 480p?

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  1. punpin_04
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    Can softmodded pal gamecube display 480p with NTSC region games?

    If it is not possible, is there any way to pal gamecube display 480p?

    I'm currently using RGB scart.
     
  2. Shadow#1

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    No 480P is NTSC your looking at 576i
     
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  3. Tumoche

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    You can force 480p with swiss if you have a rgb cable.
     
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    Do I need to buy an action replay disc? Because I'm currently using Super Smash Bros Melee exploit to play backup games.
     
  5. Dogson

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    RGB through scart is a regionfree signal in either 50Hz or 60Hz depending on how the software was coded (US releases or European releases with a 50/60Hz select screen), not the Gamecube. As long as the system and TV supports RGB you can run games in 60Hz, however you'll get 240p or an interlaced signal unless you force 480p which is possible with some games. But whether you can force 480p or not for a game doesn't have anything to do with region coding at all.

    You can only get 480p on newer CRT sets (usually the widescreen ones from the mid 2000s) or on modern LCD's etc. With older CRT's you're stuck with 480i/576i, but if it's a good CRT with RGB scart it'll look really good still and produce an image with minimal aliasing. (according to many including myself 480i RGB on a CRT looks better than 480p on an LCD, aliasing gets too noticable)
     
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  6. Tumoche

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    Nope, any kind of exploit works. You need to burn a swiss disk I through think
     
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    Pretty sure you need to buy one of those expensive official GameCube component cable or the third party HDMI adapter (still expensive) to get 480p display.
     
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    My gamecube is not chipped to run burned discs. Will I be able to run burned swiss disc?
     
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  9. Dogson

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    Yeah, for the gamecube specifically you can't do 480p through Scart (even if the standard supports it)

    if you want proper 480p RGB on a CRT you'll either have to get the GC component cable, or just play on a Wii where component cables are dirt cheap.

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    If your GC isn't chipped you can't run burned ISO's
     
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  10. Harsky

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    You are really better off buying a Wii with the Gamecube controller ports, a cheap external HDD, Wii component cable and spending an afternoon learning to softmod and install Nintendont to get 480p on the NTSC games or even force 480p on PAL games (results are hit and miss but it's worth a try if PAL ISOs are all you have on your computer).
     
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  11. alexander1970

    alexander1970 GBAtemp allows me to be here

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    Hello.:)

    In this case you will need the Gamecube SD Media Launcher includes the Action Replay with included Codes,FREELOADER and an SD Gecko.

    index.
    With that you can load SWISS from SD Card and then backup Games.:)

    Thank you.:)
     
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    Ok, so I throught that a PAL gamecube, with an rgb cable (scart), could run ntsc games at forced 480p with swiss. Is that right?
     
  13. punpin_04
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    Yeah. Actually, I asked for ntsc games because some people were saying it's impossible to run pal games in 480p.
     
  14. Lumstar

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    gamecube won't output rgb at 480p. A technical issue.

    pal games removed 480p in software.
    The digital AV port will work on a pal gamecube, but I don't think the component cable was sold in pal markets.
     
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    alexander1970 GBAtemp allows me to be here

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    And also the price is insane.:angry:
    ....collector's item...:rolleyes:
     
  16. Ryccardo

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    @Lumstar is right, the gamecube's DAC only supports the standard TV resolutions (and only NTSC or PAL+RGB color depending on model), which is why the component (or rgb with a simple mod) cable has to provide one itself!
     
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  17. Lumstar

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    Well hardly anybody cares the DAC isn't completely understood. I've tried several times to ask for technical information about modding the gamecube's composite video color encoding between NTSC and PAL, most responses dismiss the idea as pointless.
     
  18. Ryccardo

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    The problem is that Nintendo consoles don't really have service manuals (unlike for example Sony's) so it's hard to give an educated guess to what custom chips do - but after having given it a look, I believe there's no way to change the color encoding in software (no obvious external colorburst oscillator to at least turn a console from standard NTSC to NTSC 4.43, the fact that there are separate DACs for PAL and NTSC...)
     
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