Buying laptop

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Jun 29, 2010

Buying laptop by Keeley at 9:22 PM (2,111 Views / 0 Likes) 24 replies

  1. Keeley
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    So my dad decided to buy a laptop for watching movies because our old computer would start freezing and the movies were laggy and bad looking ( They aren't supposed to be). He really wanted this one:

    Toshiba Satellite P500-ST68X2

    But this seem kinda expensive, here are features that he said it must have!

    18.4" screen
    Core i7
    Some sort of wireless
    HDMI output

    Could you guys post some cheaper laptops which at least these features? Though I think its hard to get any cheaper than this...

    Thanks anyways!

    P.S. I know that this laptop is probably overkill, but i will use it for programming and gamming!
     


  2. Linkiboy

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    Hm. For $1000 I think you would be better off buying a small HTPC and a 42" TV. Why exactly does he need a 18.4" laptop? How about a 17.3"?
     
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    Whats wrong with desktops?
     
  4. Danny600kill

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    If its just for watching movies you could just buy a 42" TV and a HD Dvd player or a media player ( Basically a hdd that you put movies on and watch through the tv )
     
  5. phenoM

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    Well, this laptop is a kinda too much to watch HD movies [​IMG]
    You said that you'll program or playing games with, but somes others laptops ( cheapier ) can also do it in good conditions.

    Past the games you want to play on [​IMG]
    i7 core is not needed to run Crysis for exemple [​IMG]
    And by the way, the graphic card is a bullshit (excuse me to be prude [​IMG] ), GT300M serie cards are retarded. You should better choose a laptop with an ATI 56XX at least (Dx11 compatible and better performances).

    In my case, i've a Sony VPC laptop ( i3 core, 4Go and HD5650 ) and I run without problems the lastest Battlefield in high details.

    But buying a laptop is not the better solution here [​IMG]
    A desktop will allow you to reduce the prize by 5 ( by building a rig to only watch HD videos on your tv screen ), and by 1.5 if you want play on.
     
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    18" laptops eh? A lot of people say that 18" is far too bulky/heavy to put on your lap and will only end up sitting on a desk for its entire life, but considering that you want it for watching movies, then fair enough - bigger is better. On the other hand, you also mention that HDMI is a must... which implies that you're going to plug it into a bigger screen anyway, rendering the 18" screen useless.

    So onto the specs. Core i7 may be nice and powerful, but as mentioned, it's overkill for watching movies. You'll find that you can comfortably use a Core i3 and speed will certainly not be lacking. As for the GT330M, it's not nearly bad as phenoM describes, but it's not all that special either. HD5xxx series is the way to go if you plan on doing anything more intensive than watching movies, like gaming, rendering, multimedia editing, etc.

    Now for the suggestions. Acer has the Aspire 8942. At the lowest end of the range, it has a Core i3 and a HD5650 and can be found between $800-1100, depending where you look. The configuration with Core i7 and a HD5850 can be found for around $1200-1400. The Core i5 version can come with either graphics card, and the prices fall inbetween the others. They all comes with full economy features (like switching from discreet to integrated graphics to save power) and have a very nice set of touch-control media buttons on one side.

    Toshiba Qosmio X505 is similar to the P500 you linked, except that it has a GTS360M and costs are in the region of $1400. Or you can look at the HP Pavillion DV8t, which has Core i7, but only has a GT230M. That can be found for $900-1400.

    Otherwise it's somewhat difficult to find 18" laptops. There's a much larger range of 17" laptops with all sorts of configurations, so I recommend thinking about what it is exactly that you want to do with the laptop. Do you really want a "desktop replacement", which'll sit on a desk and never stray far from the wall socket? Or do you want a smaller laptop that's somewhat more portable and can always plug into a TV or monitor to view those movies?

    One last point - you want to find a cheaper laptop than what you found. The way to do this is simply to look around at all the different websites that sell them, including eBay and Amazon. You might find a site selling them on discount, or refurbished, or ex-display models, and get over $100 discount from them. Some laptop companies also offer "cash-back" offers if you send them a picture of your receipt. However the best way to find a cheaper laptop is to compromise your standards - look for a 17" or 15" laptop with Core i3 or i5 instead of i7, and you can pretty much chop the price by a third.
     
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    Linkiboy: He really doens't need 18", it would just be nice. My dad likes to show off =p.

    IchigoSJ: Can't put it on your lap in bed, which is one of the reasons he wants it.

    Danny600kill: My dad will use it for watching movies, but I will use it for programming and whatnot. (Though it's still overkill [​IMG])

    phenoM: Oh, i ddin't know that the GFX Card was that bad. Yeah I was thinking about getting the ATI 5XXX's.

    Originality: My dad likes to show off, so the bigger the better for him lol, though I managed to convince him to settle for a 17" thank-god. I think only I will be using the HDMI output gaming and programming and I will definettely check out all the suggestions you made.

    Thanks everyone for your suggestions and if you have anymore don't be afraid to post!
     
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    Just to precise about GT300 serie, like most of mobile gfx card from Nvidia, they're just renamed.
    This serie is still using old chipset coming from 8000GT desktop serie card [​IMG]
    Same case as the 9000 serie by the way [​IMG]

    If you still want a laptop, to bring it everywhere and to play on, you can look at Asus RoG ( Republic Of Gamer ) [​IMG] There are laptops for all purses [​IMG]
    And they're beautyfull [​IMG]
     
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    Regarding the Geforce 330M. From performance tests it appears to show results in between Geforce 240M & 250M which to be honest isn't all that bad, but it's not amazing either. However there aren't really laptops within a reasonable price range that has amazing GPUs.
     
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    +1 on the Asus ROG. It's fat and heavy but well worth it's cost ;D
     
  11. Originality

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    RoG ftw, although not in every case. It's only if you like that kind of thing. Some people like Alienware too, but it can be overpriced.

    In the 17" range, you can look at the Acer Aspire 5942, which is basically the 15" version of the 8942 I mentioned before (that said, it needs a 17" sleeve due to its wide screen). It has the same choice between Core i3/5/7 and HD5650/5850. Or you can get the Aspire 5740, which has Core i5 and uses the Intel GMA 4500 for graphics. It's a nice powerful processor, and where it has unimpressive graphics, using the IGP allows it to have a 4.5h battery life.

    You didn't ask for battery life, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.
     
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    I haven't had any complaints about my 240M graphics card. Consider the amount of each activity that you'll find yourself doing as you lower your standards. If you're job is programming, then having a great video card may prove as a bit of a distraction.

    Gaming on laptops is overrated frankly and you only really want/need a high-end video card if you're going to be playing at higher resolutions. My native 15.6'' laptops resolution is 1600x900 and I have no problems playing games at 1024x768 or 1280x768 at medium/high graphics. Resolution, I feel, is something that gets a lot of unnecessary attention. If it's not the primary concern you shouldn't worry too much about it. Something like a 5650, I imagine, would do just fine.

    In addition, native resolution also increases the cost of the laptop so I think it's a good idea you've convinced your father to downsize to a more "portable" 17-17.3'' laptop. That said, 17'' is hardly portable, how are you/your father going to show off a laptop that may as well be soldered to the desk?(and Desktop > Laptop / Bang-Buck) HDMI sounds like something you want more than your father which makes the 17'' plenty enough.

    Just some thoughts ; )
     
  13. Keeley
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    The more I look at that ASUS the more I drool. I think I'm going to go get this [​IMG].

    12aven's_Sage: True about the size, but my family generally come over every once awhile so that's usually showing of time xD.
     
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    Yes! I managed to convince my dad to go the i5 route, updating the needed specs:

    Processor: i5
    Sreen Size: 17"
    Videocard: ATI Radeon HD 5870 preferred
    Cosmetics: Cool looking preferred though performance over looks

    You guys showed my deals I never thought was possible, could you please do it again?

    Thanks!

    *goes to google*
     
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    not sure what the price-range ever was, but a 5870 video card will definitely require some extra cash unless you go the refurbished route, even then I suspect it'll be a bit more.

    Code:
    http://www.xoticpc.com/e7405080us-gaming-laptop-p-2823.html
    $1211.53 starting (has a 5870)/i5, etc.
    Code:
    http://www.avadirect.com/product_details_configurator.asp?PRID=17749
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$1200-Range

    Code:
    http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_info&model_name=NP8760
    (base is i5)

    To be honest, the mobility 5870 is the 2nd strongest mobile graphics options only 2nd to the GTX 480M, do you really need THAT good a card? It's definitely going to bump up the price mate.

    Code:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobility-Radeon-HD-5870.23073.0.html
    Scroll to the bottom for laptop models to google around with...

    From the sound of this thread it seems as if this laptop will be shared between you and your dad. The more you specialize it towards a purpose the more possessive this laptop becomes in an implicit sense. This is something you need to keep in mind. If your dead set upon getting a Mobility 5870 GPU, then the first two options seem to be worth looking into. On the other hand, I don't really think such a GPU is necessary for neither you nor your fathers needs...You could easily save $200 by choosing a less, expensive decent graphics solution.

    It's 1am, excuse me for forgetting completely about newegg. That being said, here are some more affordable choices.
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115796
    5650 $750 ---- save $400-500...

    Massive Option for Dad w/ a 360M which still isn't a bad card at all!
    Code:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114796
    Card: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForc...0M.24058.0.html
     
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    A 17" screen do not need a graphic card such big.
    Moreover, the i5 core is strong enough ( 2 physics cores and 2 logics by hyperthreading ) to work with a middle end graphic card, such as a HD5770M.

    So save up money [​IMG]

    Don't also, forget that the memories modules are very important like the amount of Go available, the frequencies and their CAS.
     
  17. Keeley
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    Hey guys,

    I found this ASUS G73JH, why is it so cheap?
     
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    910 bucks? Seems about right.
     
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    It's a good deal.
    The firsts price in euro ( i'm living in EU ) is about 1300€ [​IMG]

    It's also a good laptop. Too powerfull in one way [​IMG]
     
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    Because it's an Asus.

    Also doesnt mention what GPU it has in it, looks fishy.

    it's 1000$ were taking about here, make sure your sure what you want before you buy [​IMG]
     

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