Homebrew ARM9Loader -- Technical Details and Discussion

[Sgt. Lulz]

That's fair, but how come installing the update package and NATIVE_FIRM seperately works for avoiding an update brick?
That sounds really weird.

 

[Audioboxer]

Audioboxer if you update through system settings it can lead to a brick, Shadow updated using Sysupdater with the Native_firm.cia removed, later he installed the native_firm but I would advise against it at the moment.

Yeah don't worry I'm not going to. Just wondered how Shadow got to 10.5. I'm currently setting up an emunand again, and restoring my 9.2 sysnand backup to remove arm9loader from sysnand (for now). I survived a brick scare earlier, best to get my noob ass back to the land of emunand where idiots can survive.

 

[Shadowtrance]

That's fair, but how come installing the update package and NATIVE_FIRM seperately works for avoiding an update brick?
That sounds really weird.

I have no bloody idea why it worked that way. Native Firm IS installed as a TITLE too so maybe that's why it works when installed via cia rather than system settings, i dunno.

 

[Nintendo4DSXL]

Yeah don't worry I'm not going to. Just wondered how Shadow got to 10.5. I'm currently setting up an emunand again, and restoring my 9.2 sysnand backup to remove arm9loader from sysnand (for now). I survived a brick scare earlier, best to get my noob ass back to the land of emunand where idiots can survive.

You can use reinands arm9loaderhax.bin it boots very fast and you dont have to remove arm9loaderhax from sysnand

 

[Shadowtrance]

Audioboxer if you update through system settings it can lead to a brick, Shadow updated using Sysupdater with the Native_firm.cia removed, later he installed the native_firm but I would advise against it at the moment.

I just like pushing the boundaries. (plus i can recover easily haha)

 

[Audioboxer]

You can use reinands arm9loaderhax.bin it boots very fast and you dont have to remove arm9loaderhax from sysnand

Yeah I will. No reason to leave arm9loaderhax in sysnand though, would rather it's clean. So if I bugger up emunand I can just pull the sdcard and load into sysnand.

Or it may well be arm9loader has to be in sysnand to even boot Rei emunand in the first place. I assume it may well have to be considering I don't know how you'd get emunand to boot without it. Now that I think of it. We aren't using menuhax or a boot manager anymore.

 

[daxtsu]

I just like pushing the boundaries. (plus i can recover easily haha)

Pushing the limits/boundaries, huh..



Back on topic though:

Yeah I will. No reason to leave arm9loaderhax in sysnand though, would rather it's clean. So if I bugger up emunand I can just pull the sdcard and load into sysnand.

Or it may well be arm9loader has to be in sysnand to even boot Rei emunand in the first place. I assume it may well have to be considering I don't know how you'd get emunand to boot without it. Now that I think of it.

You have to leave it in sysnand, or you won't have access to the hack. Or am I misunderstanding you?

 

[Audioboxer]

Pushing the limits/boundaries, huh..



Back on topic though:


You have to leave it in sysnand, or you won't have access to the hack. Or am I misunderstanding you?

Yeah I just thought along those lines. This is why noobs like me should either have a hard mod or GTFO I assume it doesn't need to be installed in emunand then? Rei's loader.bin just points Rei to emunand.

 

[daxtsu]

Yeah I just thought along those lines. This is why noobs like me should either have a hard mod or GTFO I assume it doesn't need to be installed in emunand then? Rei's loader.bin just points Rei to emunand.

No installation into emunand required, no (it'd be pointless).

 

[Shadowtrance]

Yeah I just thought along those lines. This is why noobs like me should either have a hard mod or GTFO I assume it doesn't need to be installed in emunand then? Rei's loader.bin just points Rei to emunand.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Nintendo4DSXL]

Yeah I will. No reason to leave arm9loaderhax in sysnand though, would rather it's clean. So if I bugger up emunand I can just pull the sdcard and load into sysnand.

Or it may well be arm9loader has to be in sysnand to even boot Rei emunand in the first place. I assume it may well have to be considering I don't know how you'd get emunand to boot without it. Now that I think of it. We aren't using menuhax or a boot manager anymore.

I have setup reinand 3.2 as usuaslly and than copied the bin from Rei and on a other sdcard i have the sysnand payload(just in case i need to boot sysnand).

 

[Audioboxer]

No installation into emunand required, no (it'd be pointless).

No, it doesn't.

Cheers. Think I'll start from scratch with a vanilla sysnand though. I'll need to recreate emunand by cloning sysnand. Even although I have an emunand backup I'm best just to get a working emunand the way know how to do it, and then patch sysnand again with the loader.

 

[HenryLeonheart]

After getting to point 13 on the downgrade section (N3DS without Cubic Ninja), I'm trying to run the commands but they're failing. Here's a screenshot of the command prompt window.

Spoiler

Am I doing something wrong? I've been following the guide to the letter.

 

[Nintendo4DSXL]

in the comand at a "." before the xorpad "nand.fat16_0x5_.xorpad"

 

[Shadowtrance]

in the comand at a "." before the xorpad "nand.fat16_0x5_.xorpad"

The filename shouldn't be a problem as i did it myself with the same filenames.

 

[HenryLeonheart]

Oh right, thanks for the quick answer! Better someone add that dot in the guide to avoid the same question being asked I guess

 

[Shadowtrance]

Worth a try i guess though.

 

[HenryLeonheart]

It worked

 

[Audioboxer]

Would there be something stopping decrypt9/emunand9 loading via HBL on my amr9 rei 9.2 sysnand setup?

They both just kick me back to the HBL.

 

[Mrrraou]

Would there be something stopping decrypt9/emunand9 loading via HBL on my amr9 rei 9.2 sysnand setup?

They both just kick me back to the HBL.

Because ReiNAND is doing a firmlaunch to a newer FIRM