Another Wii Update

[bailli]

Ähm shouldn't something like this on the front page...?

 

[Armadillo]

Booo , means the update that fixes it will probably be on mario kart

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[shaunj66]

Booo , means the update that fixes it will probably be on mario kart

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But as long as we don't update our Wii's then we should be able to hack out the update in MK Wii and play it as usual, no?

 

[g4jek8j54]

Booo , means the update that fixes it will probably be on mario kart

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I could be wrong, but can't the Freeloader be used to bypass the firmware update, or isn't this necessarily a firmware update?

 

[Armadillo]

Booo , means the update that fixes it will probably be on mario kart

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But as long as we don't update our Wii's then we should be able to hack out the update in MK Wii and play it as usual, no?

Guess so , but I don't have modded wii yet , was planning on getting a wasabi soon (no money or time to fit it at the moment) ,so if it's got the update , it's either buy the game and take the update , or order a chip in sooner than i was planning and make time to fit it

. Also wanted to buy original mario kart anyway.

 

[WB3000]

But as long as we don't update our Wii's then we should be able to hack out the update in MK Wii and play it as usual, no?

Perhaps that would work, but for those without modchips it won't.

 

[bailli]

Hate to break this to you but the IOS updates are the ones that are needed to run to make newer games work.
In other words these are the updates why MP3, SMG and SSBB do not run when you just brickblock them.

I still don't know how the freeloader gets around these...

 

[Armadillo]

Isn't there an odd game here or there that freeloader doesn't run unless you update or at least partial update. I'm sure there was a topic somewhere on this forum that even with freeloader ssbb has to do some sort of update. So it would seem it may come down to either , signing your own stuff or mario kart , but not both.

 

[nephdj]

turns out i was wrong

 

[coolbho3000]

Hate to break this to you but the IOS updates are the ones that are needed to run to make newer games work.
In other words these are the updates why MP3, SMG and SSBB do not run when you just brickblock them.

I still don't know how the freeloader gets around these...

Then we'll just use Freeloader forever then!

 

[Dirtie]

Booo , means the update that fixes it will probably be on mario kart

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But as long as we don't update our Wii's then we should be able to hack out the update in MK Wii and play it as usual, no?

Not if it's the same as Brawl, Metroid, etc. and requires a firmware update on the disc to be installed. Which I can bet your ass it will.

Although...
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A new Wii System Update has been released, containing a new version of the firmware (IOS37) with a fix for the signing bug. The firmware will not become active until a new System Menu release is made to use it; be forewarned.

If ONLY the IOS update is required for the game to run (ie. the 'future system menu update' is not required), then you could potentially hack the ISO to include only the firmware update(s) without the system menu update. I have no idea what the chances are of this working however (did SSBB require the system menu update in addition to the firmware one?)

 

[g4jek8j54]

Hate to break this to you but the IOS updates are the ones that are needed to run to make newer games work.
In other words these are the updates why MP3, SMG and SSBB do not run when you just brickblock them.

I still don't know how the freeloader gets around these...

According to the Freeloader manual, inserting the disc, ejecting, and then inserting it again, will cause the upgrade program to be selectively loaded. I believe, in these cases, it just blocks the firmware update. So, if the IOS updates are different from the firmware updates, does that perhaps mean that even the FreeLoader won't block them?

 

[Dirtie]

Hate to break this to you but the IOS updates are the ones that are needed to run to make newer games work.
In other words these are the updates why MP3, SMG and SSBB do not run when you just brickblock them.

I still don't know how the freeloader gets around these...

According to the Freeloader manual, inserting the disc, ejecting, and then inserting it again, will cause the upgrade program to be selectively loaded. I believe, in these cases, it just blocks the firmware update. So, if the IOS updates are different from the firmware updates, does that perhaps mean that even the FreeLoader won't block them?

You've got it the wrong way around. The IOS updates are the firmware updates - the freeloader allows these to run when you insert it the second time, but blocks all the unneeded channel updates etc.

 

[DjoeN]

Very fake

The update says its in preparation for wiiware.... not in preparation to kill haxs

That was the first update from a few days ago that said that, this update says nothing as far as i know

 

[bailli]

If ONLY the IOS update is required for the game to run (ie. the 'future system menu update' is not required), then you could potentially hack the ISO to include only the firmware update(s) without the system menu update. I have no idea what the chances are of this working however (did SSBB require the system menu update in addition to the firmware one?)

Hm well the problem is that a game can "select" which IOS version it wants to run and I guess/fear a "patched" mario kart could identify itself as patched and refuse to run even if the fix is not "activated by the system menu".
Ofcourse you can take this cat and mouse game one step further and patch the IOS version the game wants to run to a lower version, but that version might lack a functionality the game needs...

 

[superrob]

Well even if Mariokart had a newer update we could just kill it like we did on many other games

 

[Smidget]

This won't affect backups correct at all?

 

[superrob]

Not normal backups.

There rumours that this fixes the Trucha Signer exploit.

Im happy i did the update last day

Now my Wii are ready for Wiiware AND trucha

 

[Jackreyes]

-sigh- i'm too tired for all this.
I'm going to bed

Hopefully we'll know by the morning.

 

[bailli]

Well even if Mariokart had a newer update we could just kill it like we did on many other games

Please read the previous posts. IOS updates are need if a game ships with a newer version!