Almost All Flash Kits Blocked Permanently

[porkiewpyne]

Gee that's funny, last I checked current flashcarts can only play DS games and couldn't ever be used to play 3DS games. So how exactly are they "protecting their platform"?

Because the 3DS CAN play DS games natively? Whether or not it plays 3DS roms is irrelevant. Going by your logic, it'll be ok if I make a phone app that gives you unlimited texts (Whatsapp doesn't count because it uses mobile internet) because my app cannot give me free calls. O____o

Sure Ninty can't stop you from using it on your other consoles. They prob would if they could. I like to think like a lock on the door. The hardcore/determined thieves/robbers will break into your house even if you put 6858365838572909028473674 locks. But that doesn't mean I am gonna leave the door unlocked. Gonna put SOME sort of a fight in that sense.

 

[VMM]

While PSVita updates and gives us PSX support,
the 3DS only block flashcards.

lolno
http://en.wikipedia....system_software
Start reading from the bottom, it's in reverse chronological order.

No I'm saying about the last update.
To say the truth the last 3 updates were basically just blocking flashcards.

They are incompetent because they released a system that was partially hacked within days

They could have released the 3DS with no DS cart compatibility at all, or they could have released the 3DS with the same compatibility as the DSi, and they chose the latter. That means that flash carts could run. DS mode was cracked ages ago and it has to do with the system itself, not the implementation. It was either include DS-mode, hackable, or don't include DS cart compatibility.

Also inb4 "No they managed to block flash carts with the latest update" - The DSTwo and R4i Gold say hi, and these are just early examples.

DSTwo and R4i Gold were blocked, the fact that they needed firmware updates to be compatible with this new update shows this is true.

This last update used something so simple but so effectual that I wonder why didn't they do it on 3DS release.
If they used this AP method since 3DS release, or even before, then I would say they were competent into blocking flashcards.
This update, out of nowhere, looks like an attempt to fix the fence while the cows are gone.

 

[Rydian]

I meant permanently blocked. There's unlikely to be any real way (outside of hardware probing stuff) to detect flash carts in DS-mode.

 

[lizard81288]

I wish Nintendo would use the e-shop more. I liked the fact that all of the games I wanted to play, are on one card. Atleast I have my old DS.

 

[exangel]

I wish Nintendo would use the e-shop more. I liked the fact that all of the games I wanted to play, are on one card. Atleast I have my old DS.

Maybe they're hanging onto the next "version" of 3DS (a la DSi to the DS) to add DS games to the eShop -.-
It would be effing great if they'd do it, there are plenty of people who would rather buy direct from Nintendo to have those games all-in-one then pay for physical or especially used games (which they make no extra money on). I like to keep a 3DS compatible flashcart so I only have to keep one console with me when I'm out of the house, but I jumped at the chance to buy the downloadable version of NSMB2 and for *some* games I'd even be willing to pay close to retail for the DS versions as downloadable in the same vein.

On the other hand a lot of people are crossing all their fingers and toes and praying for a softmod/loader that can do such a thing from SD.
It's hard to claim I'd rather empty my wallet than do a softmod -- but I'd rather support some of those developers than rip the games off, at least in the case of DS games that I never owned my own copy of. For the ones where I still own the physical carts I will "pirate" other versions of them mercilessly because I paid full retail at launch for games like Chrono Trigger DS & FF3.

 

[MeowTheMouse]

I wish Nintendo would use the e-shop more. I liked the fact that all of the games I wanted to play, are on one card. Atleast I have my old DS.

I wish Nintendo would use the e-shop and lower their freekin prices. After pirating and buying digital content, paying even 20$ for a 3ds game seems too high.

 

[smf]

Going by your logic, it'll be ok if I make a phone app that gives you unlimited texts (Whatsapp doesn't count because it uses mobile internet) because my app cannot give me free calls. O____o

Nintendo blocking DS flash carts on 3DS is like your mobile provider giving you unlimited internet access but blocking whatsapp, so that you're forced to use text messaging & then make you pay for each.

I don't understand why they are wasting their effort on it. Someone will end up making a better flash cart. The only justification would be if Nintendo lose money selling the 3DS and they need you to buy some 3DS games. That is not something that Nintendo usually do though, their hardware is normally priced so that they make some profit.

 

[Foxi4]

Nintendo blocking DS flash carts on 3DS is like your mobile provider giving you unlimited internet access but blocking whatsapp, so that you're forced to use text messaging & then make you pay for each.

I don't understand why they are wasting their effort on it. Someone will end up making a better flash cart. The only justification would be if Nintendo lose money selling the 3DS and they need you to buy some 3DS games. That is not something that Nintendo usually do though, their hardware is normally priced so that they make some profit.

Nintendo is *still* releasing DS games, DSiEnhanced games and selling DSi systems, and even if they weren't, it's natural to expect anti piracy updates from them in order to protect their property.

 

[smf]

Nintendo is *still* releasing DS games, DSiEnhanced games and selling DSi systems, and even if they weren't, it's natural to expect anti piracy updates from them in order to protect their property.

It doesn't protect their property though, it just stops pirates from upgrading to a 3DS. It would make sense if they pushed this update out to the DSi first.

 

[Foxi4]

Nintendo is *still* releasing DS games, DSiEnhanced games and selling DSi systems, and even if they weren't, it's natural to expect anti piracy updates from them in order to protect their property.

It doesn't protect their property though, it just stops pirates from upgrading to a 3DS. It would make sense if they pushed this update out to the DSi first.

They took their sweet time developing it, it seems. It's an obstacle pirates are facing since withou updates, future games will be unplayable to them. To continue using the eShop and playing 3DS games, they will be forced to update, rendering their flashcarts unusable.

 

[DeShelly]

I updated my 3ds... I will go to get a supercard very soon...

 

[thunder.echoes]

I have the correct R4i gold 3DS cart www.r4ids.cn, but unfortunately the number on it is 6. I got it when they first came out. The update will only work on the 9, A, B, C. I see on a few sites that sell them the ads say they will work on the new 3DS update V4.4.0-10. I am not willing to take the chance of ordering a new one in case they still have the old ones in stock.

Fortunately I have a SCDS2 which works great on my updated 3DS. The only problem is it will not take the codes for ACWW, which is what I like to play until the new 3DS AC comes out.

 

[VMM]

I have the correct R4i gold 3DS cart www.r4ids.cn, but unfortunately the number on it is 6. I got it when they first came out. The update will only work on the 9, A, B, C. I see on a few sites that sell them the ads say they will work on the new 3DS update V4.4.0-10. I am not willing to take the chance of ordering a new one in case they still have the old ones in stock.

Fortunately I have a SCDS2 which works great on my updated 3DS. The only problem is it will not take the codes for ACWW, which is what I like to play until the new 3DS AC comes out.

What do you mean with ACWW and 3DS AC?

 

[Arras]

I have the correct R4i gold 3DS cart www.r4ids.cn, but unfortunately the number on it is 6. I got it when they first came out. The update will only work on the 9, A, B, C. I see on a few sites that sell them the ads say they will work on the new 3DS update V4.4.0-10. I am not willing to take the chance of ordering a new one in case they still have the old ones in stock.

Fortunately I have a SCDS2 which works great on my updated 3DS. The only problem is it will not take the codes for ACWW, which is what I like to play until the new 3DS AC comes out.

What do you mean with ACWW and 3DS AC?

Animal Crossing.

 

[thunder.echoes]

I have the correct R4i gold 3DS cart www.r4ids.cn, but unfortunately the number on it is 6. I got it when they first came out. The update will only work on the 9, A, B, C. I see on a few sites that sell them the ads say they will work on the new 3DS update V4.4.0-10. I am not willing to take the chance of ordering a new one in case they still have the old ones in stock.

Fortunately I have a SCDS2 which works great on my updated 3DS. The only problem is it will not take the codes for ACWW, which is what I like to play until the new 3DS AC comes out.

What do you mean with ACWW and 3DS AC?

ACWW = Animal Crossing Wild World - 3DS AC = Animal Crossing 3D

edit: (the R4i gold 3DS took the codes for ACWW)

 

[jerbear64]

Team R4i-SDHC has posted a video of their flashcart working on v4.0.0-10. They haven't posted an update yet, it seems they're waiting to release a wave of 4.0.0-10 flashcarts before providing an update for the old flashcarts.

 

[smf]

They took their sweet time developing it, it seems. It's an obstacle pirates are facing since withou updates, future games will be unplayable to them. To continue using the eShop and playing 3DS games, they will be forced to update, rendering their flashcarts unusable.

So by blocking flashcarts, the pirates will stop using the eShop or buying new games. At least until they get hold of a new flashcart.

 

[Cuber]

Well I guess I'll never be able to use my Acekard in my 3DS, though I never did anyway, always used my DS lite.

 

[Minox]

They took their sweet time developing it, it seems. It's an obstacle pirates are facing since withou updates, future games will be unplayable to them. To continue using the eShop and playing 3DS games, they will be forced to update, rendering their flashcarts unusable.

So by blocking flashcarts, the pirates will stop using the eShop or buying new games. At least until they get hold of a new flashcart.

Either that or they might actually start buying games. The more of a hassle Nintendo makes it to be a pirate the less likely people are to actually bother with it.

 

[iHeartlessHero13]

Yet another reason I'm glad I invested in the DSTWO when it was launched.. TYBG