A Couple Questions with USB Loader GX

Discussion in 'Wii - Hacking' started by Hibiro, Jul 13, 2013.

  1. Hibiro

    Hibiro Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    I've been looking around and I'm finding many different things that seem to conflict, or at least confuse me.

    Some places are saying you don't need to use WBFS Manager/Format anymore for USB Loader GX. Is this true? Is there a better option? I really do like it because it shrinks the game's size down to what's necessary without the Dummy Data, but if I can do that without WBFS, I will.

    I'm currently using a 1 TB Hard Drive, split into 2 Partitions, 1 FAT32 for GC Games, and 1 WBFS for Wii Games. I use USB Loader GX 3.0, and it has worked fairly well so far, finally got it to run GC Games. Now, my main issue though is that I caught a Wii Game going to Black Screen, Arc Rise Fantasia. That needs to be fixed, and I'm wondering why. I'm only using a couple games at a time right now to test things, so yeah.

    So, what's the best way to run both Wii and GC games off my External? Do I need WBFS? And why the Black Screen with Arc Rise Fantasia, when Sonic Colors boots up just fine?
  2. Cyan

    Cyan GBATemp's lurking knight

    Global Moderator
    Oct 27, 2002
    Engine room, learning
    WBFS file format, and WBFS partition format are two different things.
    - You don't need to partition your HDD in WBFS anymore, you can use FAT32 or NTFS.
    - in FAT32 you can use games in wbfs file format (which takes only the size of the game. If a game is bigger than 4GB the game is split in two files which work just like any other games in USBLoaders)
    - in NTFS you can use games in wbfs file format, or in ISO format (always 4GB)

    To create wbfs files to store them in FAT32 of NTFS partition, you still need a Game Manager.
    The most popular is WiiBackupManager.

    You can use FAT32 + WBFS
    or FAT32+FAT32
    or FAT32+NTFS
    the WBFS partition is not recommended as it can corrupt games (and make black screen without you understanding why).

    About the black screen : probably a bad dump, or corrupted dump (due to WBFS format which corrupt games).
    You can verify the game integrity with WiiBackupManager (select the game and select "Sha1" to verify).

    Solution :
    Redump the game on your WBFS partition
    Redump the game on your FAT32 partition (and select the FAT32 partition in USBLoaderGX > Settings > HDD settings )
    Verify the video setting (best option is "Disc Default", to match the video mode with the game region)
    be sure to use an IOS with base56 with this ArcRiseFantasia to prevent a crash in the second city.
  3. rooskie54

    rooskie54 GBAtemp Regular

    Jan 4, 2009
    United States
    Strictly for wii purposes you only need 1 FAT32 partition. You might have other uses for the drive and desire other partitions, but for Wii usage having the first partition on your drive as FAT32 is all you need. Gamecube games have to be on FAT32.

    The WBFS filesystem is dead now. There is a .wbfs file extension though. Using wii backup manager ( http://www.wiibackupmanager.co.uk/ ) you can convert wii .iso to .wbfs. This removes all the dummy data and shrinks the games size, as well as splitting games that are too large to fit on FAT32 (can't have files larger than 4 GB on FAT32). Gamecube games must remain in .iso format.

    So the best way is FAT32 with your wii isos as .wbfs.

    Why doesn't Arc Rise Fantasia work? Dunno. Maybe it's your cIOSes are out of date? Post a
    syscheck log: https://code.google.com/p/syscheck/downloads/list

    EDIT: cyan pretty much beat me too it, and I agree it could be a bad rip
  4. Hibiro

    Hibiro Member

    Sep 30, 2009
    Thanks. That really helped. It's all working fine, I just gotta pull Arc Rise off my disc again.
  5. pippon3

    pippon3 Member

    Sep 4, 2013
    Sorry if I loan this thread but i have some issue too.
    I used always wbfs manager 3.0 and all games worked great in usb loader gx, until I converted my wbfs drive to fat32 using "wbfs2fat" to put some GC games in it. (and because don't want to loose any wii games)
    And now all the Wii games doesn't boot up. Gives me only a blackscreen on the games that worked before..:(
    How do I fix this.. Can't be any ios problems because all the games (500gb wii games) worked like I said fine before..
    I Use 2.0 USB 1TB WD Harddrive. PLEASE help me!
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