Hacking 3DS update process analyzed

[WB3000]

The common key is contained within the 3DS in some complicated technical way that I do not have any comprehension of, but will likely require a hardware modification (likely, done before) or yes, some exploit of the system using files that are not encrypted (are there any?).

I am not familiar with how the DSi key was obtained, but I think it can be summarized as basically: people who knew what they were doing did some crazy hax, got the key, kept it a secret for awhile but eventually it leaked.

 

[Knyaz Vladimir]

The common key is contained within the 3DS in some complicated technical way that I do not have any comprehension of, but will likely require a hardware modification (likely, done before) or yes, some exploit of the system using files that are not encrypted (are there any?).

I am not familiar with how the DSi key was obtained, but I think it can be summarized as basically: people who knew what they were doing did some crazy hax, got the key, kept it a secret for awhile but eventually it leaked.

Well, the whole update should be encrypted, so we can't use it to assist us. If only we could dump the 3DS BIOS, then we could figure out how to break into the console.

Although (extremely off-topic), I want to make Team Exactoknivez just so I could take apart a 3DS and smash at it with an exactoknife. Wait, I got the BIOS? DOUBLE PROFIT!

 

[WiiUBricker]

Brute forcing the key is an option, but could take a looooooooooong time

 

[Antoids]

Brute forcing the key is an option, but could take a looooooooooong time

Would there be a way to use an @home sort of thing to speed up the process?

I have taken at best a cursory glance at hacking of any sort, but if bruteforcing is an option, we might as well be doing it while thinking of other things, yes? And many hands make light work, so pooling some processing power from everyone with a 3ds might be a good idea. I, for one, would be willing to set it up.

 

[WiiUBricker]

Brute forcing the key is an option, but could take a looooooooooong time

Would there be a way to use an @home sort of thing to speed up the process?

I have taken at best a cursory glance at hacking of any sort, but if bruteforcing is an option, we might as well be doing it while thinking of other things, yes? And many hands make light work, so pooling some processing power from everyone with a 3ds might be a good idea. I, for one, would be willing to set it up.

Well, first a brute forcer has to be developed. But brute forcing a key has already failed with the DSi key. Dont expect any difference for the 3DS key.

Btw, blasty has posted this picture at his twitter: http://i.imgur.com/syxnn.jpg (the guy who found the dsi common key first I think).

 

[Relys]

Brute forcing private key == lolololololololololololol

 

[Knyaz Vladimir]

Brute forcing the key is an option, but could take a looooooooooong time

Would there be a way to use an @home sort of thing to speed up the process?

I have taken at best a cursory glance at hacking of any sort, but if bruteforcing is an option, we might as well be doing it while thinking of other things, yes? And many hands make light work, so pooling some processing power from everyone with a 3ds might be a good idea. I, for one, would be willing to set it up.

Well, first a brute forcer has to be developed. But brute forcing a key has already failed with the DSi key. Dont expect any difference for the 3DS key.

Btw, blasty has posted this picture at his twitter: http://i.imgur.com/syxnn.jpg (the guy who found the dsi common key first I think).

This just made my day. =D

I'd be willing to join the 3DS hacking scene. Too bad I don't have one, but I can work without a 3DS.

 

[Habstinat]

The Akamai
HD Network

I'm fairly sure that it just one of Akamai's services, and that Nintendo has been using Akamai for general distribution for quite awhile.

Yup. The website is owned by Tucows, a software/shareware distribution site. Seems like Nintendo has used the same company to distribute Wii and possibly other DS files as well.

 

[Cyan]

If we can download it from NUS using the computer (without NTR user agent), then it's like Wii/DSi and they don't have a personal key. it's using the common key, which is identical for every 3ds.

I'm wondering if we could replace the European video with the Japanese one , using a proxy file replacing feature (Charles, or CFB5) while updating.
Though, it would need to be done when updating, I can't to it anymore.


Japan had Nintendo Orchestra
Europe has a nature (forest, river, waterfall)/animal (bear, fish)/water flowing in hands/flower/train/parachute people/firework.
America has something else ?

I'm also wondering if this video is region locked, because it's installed as a channel, there's a chance it is.

@I forgot his name :
No, I didn't try any flashcard yet.

 

[Erdnaxela]

Europe has a nature (forest, river, waterfall)/animal (bear, fish)/water flowing in hands/flower/train/parachute people/firework.
America has something else ?

PAL :
[youtube]w4qFR0vAfH0[/youtube]
USA :
[youtube]COUX8YnBZUQ[/youtube]

Well, I like the USA one more, why do we got a random video >.

 

[indask8]

Well, I like the USA one more, why do we got a random video >.

 

[Cyan]

The video is longer, and the 3D effect is the main goal of the video, but I prefer the European one. (I'm not found of dogs

)
thanks for posting it.

 

[Crazy-S]

IMO is Bruteforcing not that what we need now, it´s too Random and needs much Time we don´t have

I think we should find a way to Dump 3DS Games, so we could see what they´re accessing on the 3DS and we could look for some Memory Issues like Twilight hack (Buffer Overflow)

 

[Keva]

I guess we can't do much with the files on the system till the May update which will open up data management.

Editt: Though I suppose looking at how the 3DS reads the .mpo images and the Mii's might be usefull.

 

[ichichfly]

I'm wondering if we could replace the European video with the Japanese one , using a proxy file replacing feature (Charles, or CFB5) while updating.
Though, it would need to be done when updating, I can't to it anymore.

no it don't work

but you can update only a part of the 3DS.

 

[haddad]

The video is longer, and the 3D effect is the main goal of the video, but I prefer the European one. (I'm not found of dogs

)
thanks for posting it.

What is the European one? cats?

 

[WiiUBricker]

The video is longer, and the 3D effect is the main goal of the video, but I prefer the European one. (I'm not found of dogs

)
thanks for posting it.

What is the European one? cats?

This is the european one: http://gbatemp.net/t285655-3ds-update-proc...t&p=3553609

 

[Nollog]

lol, linking two or three posts above someone is funny.

I thought we were supposed to get the dog video too, but nope. The 3D looked really good in it(the european one which i got since i'm in europe) though.

 

[KingVamp]

Not sure, I think I might like the PAL one better. :/

or just like them equally.

 

[popoffka]

I'm going to get my EU 3DS soon, so I could try swapping videos.
Could somebody post some detailed info on how to do it?