Pirating Microsoft Office

Deleted User · Apr 28, 2019

Microsoft Office is expensive and I intend to pirate it. The problem is I use a Windows PC and fear that a future Windows update might detect cracked copies of Microsoft Office and refuse to run them. The copies I find on a certain Swedish torrent site contain thousands of seeders but 0 comments. They also have very low total sizes eg. 20MB. This leads me to suspect they contain malware.

My solution is to use Virtual Box to run MS Office in a sandboxed environment with all network connections disabled. I have not tested this method yet. Is this necessary? Are there any problems I have failed to anticipate?

Hayato213 · Apr 28, 2019

Just buy a 2016 key off ebay they are really cheap.

decemberchild · Apr 28, 2019

Or use Libre office or Google docs .Both of these are pretty much just as good at this point.

zfreeman · Apr 28, 2019

I don't think you have to mess with the network connection. You can just redirect Office to check with a more affirming server. It's worth noting: 2019 is exclusive to Windows 10, whereas 2016 is compatible with older versions of Windows.

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johnnyblackout · Apr 28, 2019

Microsoft Toolkit

FAST6191 · Apr 28, 2019

The only reason to go as far as making an isolated system with a pirated is if you plan to give it to someone that does not understand computers that well but wants MS office (whether it is because it is what they know*, what they think they need or something I would write off as nonsense for myself but still has some practical value in the real world) and at the same time don't want any comebacks at all in the future if it breaks. If you are doing a VM you can surely stuff the documents on a network share and then refresh to a known point every VM boot, or have a working clone sitting around should it become necessary.

*this ignores that radical shifts MS office goes through every so often -- ribbon is still not the way forward.

I don't know if future MS updates will break MS office. I normally see it for mainline windows where they sneak in a pointless update to take on piracy but can see office in the future. On said comebacks are these likely to include jumping on whatever VNC you care for at the time, loading whatever the current equivalent of the Ratiborus tools is and going from there?

In my experience those that want everything for nothing and will go here will also not care to pay you and run you ragged given half the chance. Fire them as clients. Makes life so much nicer.

As others said though libreoffice and maybe some of the online ones will do for what most people want (even given the "everybody only uses 10% of the features, just a different 10%" thing that people pondering such things pushed). I would possibly even go further and say if those don't do what you want then you need proper software -- if Libreoffice calc (their spreadsheet offering) is not doing what you want then you should probably have been using a database several steps before that point, if you need to do proper layout and such then some big boy desktop publishing will need to be involved (even MS separates publisher out a bit, whether you go into (la)tex or https://www.scribus.net/ will probably depend upon your needs with the latter being more for poster/leaflet design, I mentioned latex a minute ago (though I am a lazy bastard so tend to opt for https://www.lyx.org/ ) and that is what most big reports, scientific journals and all that jazz operate with and for good reason.

The Real Jdbye · Apr 28, 2019

leafeon34 said:
Microsoft Office is expensive and I intend to pirate it. The problem is I use a Windows PC and fear that a future Windows update might detect cracked copies of Microsoft Office and refuse to run them. The copies I find on a certain Swedish torrent site contain thousands of seeders but 0 comments. They also have very low total sizes eg. 20MB. This leads me to suspect they contain malware.

My solution is to use Virtual Box to run MS Office in a sandboxed environment with all network connections disabled. I have not tested this method yet. Is this necessary? Are there any problems I have failed to anticipate?

You can use KMS activation with something like KMSpico, which is available on a certain forum My***********. KMS is the activation method used (legit) by some businesses so there should be no way for M$ to detect it.
You can just use a clean MSDN ISO of Office, no cracks are needed, just a small program that runs on startup to refresh the 60 day KMS activation.

Ryccardo · Apr 28, 2019

leafeon34 said:
fear that a future Windows update might detect cracked copies of Microsoft Office and refuse to run them.

Nah, it's not really in Microsoft's interest (of maintaining their dominant position, and therefore risk being replaced in business, which is where the real money is) to obstruct the common man from using (and becoming addicted to) Microsoft software

Besides, you don't need a "cracked" copy - get an official volume license version (for which you can find hashes) and activate via 3rd party KMS software

Tony_92 · Apr 28, 2019

You can buy Office OEM keys off ebay for like 5-10€. They work just like the keys bought directly from Microsoft and you don't have to hassle around with the activation tool. From my experience Windows Defender likes to nag about the KMS tool, at least when I tried to use it.

Lacius · Apr 28, 2019

I recommend using Google Apps instead.
If you have to use pirated Office, don't use Microsoft Toolkit. It has been officially abandoned.
You don't need to worry about pirated Office being detected.
However, it is legitimate to worry about Office losing its KMS activation (if that's the route you go with) with a Windows 10 feature update (approximately once every six months, unless you change the settings). You can change your settings to go longer without Windows 10 feature updates while still receiving security updates.
I recommend using KMS_VL_ALL-SppExtComObjPatcher-kms-31 for your KMS activation needs. As long as you add an exclusion for SppExtComObjPatcher in your antivirus and pay attention to what happens after a quality update, you should be fine. It's your best option.
A Windows 10 quality update could break the aforementioned tool, but it probably won't. If it does, you will probably just need to install a new version of the tool.

johnnyblackout · Apr 29, 2019

Just out of curiosity, where did you happen to read that M$ Toolkit was "officially abandoned"?

Kioku · Apr 29, 2019

I'll echo for buying an OEM key. It's cheap, easy and fool proof.

Viri · Apr 29, 2019

leafeon34 said:
Microsoft Office is expensive and I intend to pirate it. The problem is I use a Windows PC and fear that a future Windows update might detect cracked copies of Microsoft Office and refuse to run them. The copies I find on a certain Swedish torrent site contain thousands of seeders but 0 comments. They also have very low total sizes eg. 20MB. This leads me to suspect they contain malware.

My solution is to use Virtual Box to run MS Office in a sandboxed environment with all network connections disabled. I have not tested this method yet. Is this necessary? Are there any problems I have failed to anticipate?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INSTANT-MI...COUNT-5-DEVICES-5TB-WINDOWS-MAC/123747081515?

Originality · Apr 29, 2019

When you get 5 licences and split the cost of Office 365 5 ways, it’s actually fairly cheap.

If you can’t afford even that, Libreoffice is the way to go.

I don’t recommend pirating any software because it opens you to certain risks, but the others have provided enough advice to see you through if you listen to it.

smf · Apr 29, 2019

Office 2007 vlk works on windows 10 and you don't have to mess around with kms.

Catastrophic · Apr 29, 2019

Lacius said:
I recommend using KMS_VL_ALL-SppExtComObjPatcher-kms-31 for your KMS activation needs.

Seconded. Whenever I "burrow" a copy of Office 2019 I use that tool and it works with no issues whatsoever.

Lacius · Apr 29, 2019

smf said:
Office 2007 vlk works on windows 10 and you don't have to mess around with kms.

Office 2007 is not recommended. It no longer receives security updates.

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johnnyblackout said:
Just out of curiosity, where did you happen to read that M$ Toolkit was "officially abandoned"?

On the official release thread, one of the later posts. The first post has also been wiped.

Ericthegreat · Apr 29, 2019

Tony_92 said:
You can buy Office OEM keys off ebay for like 5-10€. They work just like the keys bought directly from Microsoft and you don't have to hassle around with the activation tool. From my experience Windows Defender likes to nag about the KMS tool, at least when I tried to use it.

Memoir said:
I'll echo for buying an OEM key. It's cheap, easy and fool proof.

Viri said:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/INSTANT-MI...COUNT-5-DEVICES-5TB-WINDOWS-MAC/123747081515?

Where do these come from, as they seem to have a infinite number of them, is there a activation method that generates them?

Edit: this is looking stranger:

You cannot use your own email address for this subscription.

You will receive a username and password for Activated Office 365.

You can change Password after initial login, however the username remains as is.

johnnyblackout · Apr 29, 2019

@Lacius

If you're referring to the mydigitallife thread I don't see any thread that says it's abandoned. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough? Only reason I keep bringing this up is because I still use it to this day and it's worked at every version of Windows/Office I throw at it (besides office 365).

Lacius · Apr 29, 2019

johnnyblackout said:
@Lacius

If you're referring to the mydigitallife thread I don't see any thread that says it's abandoned. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough? Only reason I keep bringing this up is because I still use it to this day and it's worked at every version of Windows/Office I throw at it (besides office 365).

Like I said before, if you look at the first post there, you will see all of the content has been deleted. In addition, Cody posted the following:

I don't have the time or motivation to continue working on this. I have other things to do and there are other activators.

Consider this abandoned unless I say otherwise. I don't even use Windows anymore outside of a VM and haven't for the last 5 years.

If you're using Windows 10, you are likely to run into issues with the last couple of feature updates if you're using MTK. There's no harm in continuing to use MTK with previous versions of Windows, I suppose.

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