I appreciate what you're trying to do, and I agree with you, but it's hopeless. The UK (and Europe in general) is more of a police state than even the USA, and everyone there likes it that way. As long as their government isn't targeting them, makes them feel safe and cozy with a camera on every street corner. Doesn't matter that in 10 years there will be a black market for butter knives in England.Apparently this is US law for "aiding terrorists" (as in materially doing so by providing material support, financial services or resources):
https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2...rged-with-if-you-get-caught-joining-isis.html
People that do so get a trial, and can be convicted for up to 15 years of prison.
Question: Where did that girls/womens trial take place?
Oh, yeah - there was none...
Did she forfit the rights of a formal proceeding as well?
Here is a metapher to make it extremely simple.
UK called wolf. Citizens applauded. Some poor shmuck was ostracized. (Or ostracized themselves, by "could have seen it coming, that we'd change the law on them".)
Dont forget, that you all are cheering for no one to get the chance of a fair trial at all.
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Next step. Somehow get Trump affiliated with aiding a terror organization. Strip him of his citizenship. Looses presidency. No impeachment trials needed.
Hey, this trialless "danger, danger" you have to lose your citizenship by association game seems fun, once you get the hang of it...
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Next step, put Venezuela on state sponsored terror list.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...ating-venezuela-as-state-sponsor-of-terrorism
Repeat with people aiding them.
Hey - that game is fun.
And you are a terrorist, and you are a terrorist, and you are a terrorist. (Spoken in an Oprah cadence.. )
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And if you eat fruitloops you become fresh and fruity?
Did she commit terror? No.
Did she show around her IS membership card? No.
Whats her crime? And I mean something you can even potentially prove. Not just something that has manifasted in your mind, because a blond bomb on TV said IS five times, while showing her picture.
I mean what else do you want to hear?
In the US case, every article is full of "will be legally challenged."
In Germany the foreign minister basically said - "legally, you take them back" two days ago.
The UK managed to paint their women into a corner thats reserved for imminent threats.
You still go with your feelings of - yes I'd let her die in a camp though?
Read the freaking articles. Not just the headlines.
Hows that for arguing skills.
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But, but that blonde women on TV told me, she was joining IS! And how does she know? Was she there at the time?
Or do we now take passports from women with child in refugee camps based on all the concepts of. "He said, she said?"
Maybe their social media profiles?
Get a clue.
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Oh I've forgot, in the british case the british security minister said so himself, before the PR stunt.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ndon-bethnal-green-syria-terror-a8778821.html
Need more?
As for what happens to people aiding terrorism in the US, under Bush Jr's Patriot Act and Obama's NDAA, you can be held indefinitely without due process on the mere suspicion of terrorism, so she wouldn't have fared much better here.