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Hacking Speculations about Switch 2 hacking

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i do entertain the hypothetical in my head that the Switch 2 will be jailbroken in the most uninspired and mundane way possible where its essentially another Twilight Hack, you never know it with Nintendo
 
sysuah said:
i do entertain the hypothetical in my head that the Switch 2 will be jailbroken in the most uninspired and mundane way possible where its essentially another Twilight Hack, you never know it with Nintendo
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That's the part you guys don't seem to understand in almost a decade. No matter how many times it gets repeated, you guys just can't comprehend.

Not even the Switch 1 has been jailbroken (sans the Nvidia exploit). There's hasn't been a "Twilight Hack moment" from Nintendo in almost a decade.
 
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We're a year and a half in almost, has any further progress been made? Any unpatchable hardware slip-ups been found? Any secret backdoors to discover that Nintendo repair and OS restoration would use that we can exploit?
 
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Not even the Switch 1 has been jailbroken (sans the Nvidia exploit). There's hasn't been a "Twilight Hack moment" from Nintendo in almost a decade.
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Sure, by that logic, nuclear energy is perfectly safe (if you ignore the meltdowns), Trump kept every single promise (except the ones he broke), England won every World Cup (apart from the ones it lost), and Japan was responsible for every major scientific breakthrough of the last thousand years (except, of course, the ones that happened elsewhere).

It's truly remarkable how often you can be right when you simply exclude everything that proves you wrong.

Nearly all Nintendo Switch consoles can be jailbroken by installing a modchip. Consequently, the claim that the original Switch remains completely unhacked is only valid under a rather specific definition of jailbreaking, namely one that requires the console to immediately execute games stored on a CD-R placed on top of its NFC reader.
 
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FernandoRocker said:
Like mentioned before. That was almost a decade ago.
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You can't improve on perfection.

When a device can be hacked with nothing more than a paperclip, other methods naturally seem rather unimpressive by comparison. That obviously does not mean there are no other exploits or approaches.

But since you seem more interested in being right than understanding the point, let's just agree that the original Switch was never* hacked at all. Obviously only by your definition, which only counts as hacking if Best Buy includes an axe with the console so you can literally hack it apart.
 
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You can't improve on perfection.

When a device can be hacked with nothing more than a paperclip, other methods naturally seem rather unimpressive by comparison. That obviously does not mean there are no other exploits or approaches.

But since you seem more interested in being right than understanding the point, let's just agree that the original Switch was never* hacked at all. Obviously only by your definition, which only counts as hacking if Best Buy includes an axe with the console so you can literally hack it apart.
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Even after fusee was disclosed and the exploit was public, hackers did not stop looking for exploits. This is proven by the multiple software exploits that came after. https://switchbrew.org/wiki/Switch_System_Flaws you can see that the same people who worked on fusee were discovering system bugs for years after even up until this year. Just because you don't hear any news doesn't mean they aint trying. Every single exploit since did not and could not result in arbitrary code execution, either in a permanent or temporal way, and those that may have worked were all patched.
"You can't improve on perfection" is never a reason to stop searching.
 
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@emmauss Obviously. I think you misunderstood my point. In fact, I was referring to the same outcome as you: the research never stopped, and numerous vulnerabilities were discovered. However, these findings had relatively little impact because an existing, unfixable vulnerability had already provided a reliable entry point. As a result, subsequent discoveries attracted considerably less attention.

Your argument on the successfulness, however, focuses exclusively on software-only-based exploits (softmods). If external methods (hardmods) are also taken into account, the overall number of successful approaches is significantly higher.

And the fact that the original Switch has been so extensively hacked that even the compatibility layer implemented on the Switch 2 struggles to differentiate a legitimate game card by a cloned one says a lot.
 
karmesin said:
Nearly all Nintendo Switch consoles can be jailbroken by installing a modchip. Consequently, the claim that the original Switch remains completely unhacked is only valid under a rather specific definition of jailbreaking, namely one that requires the console to immediately execute games stored on a CD-R placed on top of its NFC reader.
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To be fair, much of the work of the modchips on the Switch came about from folks using the launch units with that specific goof-up by Nvidia, and working from the inside out, rather than working from the outside in. Even by the known hackers of the Switch 1, none have found a separate crack in the wall to find a way in. The Horizon OS is that secure.
 
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