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As far as playing games goes, there's no advantage to staying on anything earlier than 4.03. That is the earliest anyone is targeting with backports.
Thanks, that's what I was thinking.
There is a key dumping method for 3.xx but it’s not public yet.

I’m also on 3.20 and waiting….
Yeah cheers, probably only a factor from a dev/preservation reason then. Might have to pull the trigger then I think.

Thanks for both replies :)
 
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How can I avoid losing my pairing to the disc drive for a PS5 Pro?

And is it "over" if it boots into safe mode?
 
How can I avoid losing my pairing to the disc drive for a PS5 Pro?
So that one is a tough position. The only way to truly avoid it is to avoid doing anything that might cause a kernel panic. Which is always going to be a risk when running a jailbroken console. There is no way to do this without some risk.

The best thing you can do to mitigate the risk is to use fPKGs when possible (if your console is capable), since those are generally more stable and the OS has better error handling around them. Failing that, don't put other types of game dumps on your internal storage. The idea being that if your PS5 is going to go sideways, you don't want it to do so while the internal SSD is tasked with doing something important.

And is it "over" if it boots into safe mode?
It depends. If you can get out of safe mode without resetting the console, you should be okay. But anything that requires a reset or OS reinstall (i.e. corrupts the OS or its settings) will lose the pairing.
 
i have a ps5 with firmware 13.42 so i was able to hack my it , but my questions are :
1 - can i dump and play ps5 games that i currently own on a disc without patches or do i need to do some converting , patching and ecc. after having dumped my own ps5 games ?
 
So that one is a tough position. The only way to truly avoid it is to avoid doing anything that might cause a kernel panic. Which is always going to be a risk when running a jailbroken console. There is no way to do this without some risk.

The best thing you can do to mitigate the risk is to use fPKGs when possible (if your console is capable), since those are generally more stable and the OS has better error handling around them. Failing that, don't put other types of game dumps on your internal storage. The idea being that if your PS5 is going to go sideways, you don't want it to do so while the internal SSD is tasked with doing something important.

It depends. If you can get out of safe mode without resetting the console, you should be okay. But anything that requires a reset or OS reinstall (i.e. corrupts the OS or its settings) will lose the pairing.
Thank you very much for the thorough explaination ViRGE.

So in my situation (I bought a PS5 Pro on FW 13.60 with the disc drive still paired) it would be safer to wait for the possibility to use fPKGs if I understand you correctly. And would I be mostly fine if I just use an external drive for my game dumps? And aside from game dumps for PS5, does the same rule stand for emulators?

Do you personally think it will ever be possibly to pair the disc drive without connecting to the internet?
 
Thank you very much for the thorough explaination ViRGE.

So in my situation (I bought a PS5 Pro on FW 13.60 with the disc drive still paired) it would be safer to wait for the possibility to use fPKGs if I understand you correctly. And would I be mostly fine if I just use an external drive for my game dumps? And aside from game dumps for PS5, does the same rule stand for emulators?
That would be the safer play, yes. I have to reiterate that it's not foolproof, but it is the least-janky option.

As for emulators, those are generally fine. You can run those from external storage too, if you'd like.

Do you personally think it will ever be possibly to pair the disc drive without connecting to the internet?
There is currently a way to backup pairing keys. However there is no way to restore them. It doesn't hurt to back up the keys, but right now I would not count on a restoration method coming along. Even after a few years of this, the scene does not really have a good understanding of how pairing works.
 
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That would be the safer play, yes. I have to reiterate that it's not foolproof, but it is the least-janky option.

As for emulators, those are generally fine. You can run those from external storage too, if you'd like.

There is currently a way to backup pairing keys. However there is no way to restore them. It doesn't hurt to back up the keys, but right now I would not count on a restoration method coming along. Even after a few years of this, the scene does not really have a good understanding of how pairing works.
I see, so there really is no "risk-free" option. It's always nice to have the physical way, so I'll try to stay as safe as it gets.

The PS5 pro is still on the way to me and I need to inform me about the whole hacking process. So much has changed, the whole scene exploded while I wasn't looking. I'm hopeful that it will find a way to better understand the disc drive with all the new progress that is being made.

Thank you for your time! I'm very grateful.
 
Is there a recent firmware and box serial list for the ps5 (slim) for European models?

Looking to buy a ps5 for the exploit now.
 
Greetings, new to this,
Just noticed something on my 12.40 firmware Y2JB PS5, I have games installed that show on the games menu, but are not listed in the Shadow Mount games list screen.
Is there any significance to this?
It will say that I have 90 some odd things installed between games and homebrew apps, but clearly not everything is listed on the Shadow Mount list, so I'm just curious why that would be?
 
Thanks for the noob thread. I just got a new PS5 to jailbreak. It's brand new, so it doesn't have any account info on it. When I look at setup videos, I see they seem to force you to log into a PSN account first thing.

So before I can disable updates and stuff, I have to get online with it. Is that true? How do I avoid downloading updates if the first thing they have you do is log in?
 
Thanks for the noob thread. I just got a new PS5 to jailbreak. It's brand new, so it doesn't have any account info on it. When I look at setup videos, I see they seem to force you to log into a PSN account first thing.

So before I can disable updates and stuff, I have to get online with it. Is that true? How do I avoid downloading updates if the first thing they have you do is log in?
Welcome to the club.

So here is the short answer: no, you do not need to get online with your jailbroken console. In fact, that is the last thing you want to do. We do not want your console talking to Sony's servers ever again!

It is possible to activate and fake sign-in a jailbroken PS5 console, and that is what you want to be doing here. There are a multitude of tools for this; PS5 Account Tools is one of the more straightforward options. Just run the activation script, reboot, run the fake sign-in script, reboot again, and you are all set.👍
 
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Many thanks for creating this forum thread. I've recently taken my disc-edition PS5 out of the closet. It's on firmware 3.00 with a UMTX2 jailbreak. Back when I first tried it, I tested loading PS4 backups and put it away, waiting for a better time that might have finally arrived.

Quick questions:
  1. Can you play PS5 backups on this firmware? From what I've seen, it's necessary to use backports, and almost all of them require firmware 4.x or higher.
  2. If not, is there any way to self create backports for 3.xx firmwares?
  3. What firmware do you recommend using, and what would I lose/gain compared to 3.xx?
Thanks in advance for your help
 
Can you play PS5 backups on this firmware? From what I've seen, it's necessary to use backports, and almost all of them require firmware 4.x or higher.
In practice, no. Only the oldest games work on that firmware. And backports for newer games stop at FW 4.xx, as you correctly note.
If not, is there any way to self create backports for 3.xx firmwares?
The answer here is also no. Kits haven't been created for a firmware that low, in part because that firmware is missing so many developer features exposed in newer firmwares. Despite being an evolution of the PS4 OS, it's a bit raw in some respects.
What firmware do you recommend using, and what would I lose/gain compared to 3.xx?
At a minimum, you would need to go to FW 4.00 to play games (FW 4.03 being one of the "golden" firmwares). What you gain is the ability to play backported games, and the ability to install a M.2 SSD when you eventually fill up your PS5 with games. What you lose is maybe the ability to dump keys in the future, but that is such a wishy-washy prospect right now that there is no telling when that may come or if it would let you (as an end-user) do anything useful.

But, if all you want to do is play games, then I personally think you should aim even higher. 7.61 is quite nice. It gets you a ton of quality-of-life features from newer firmwares, compatibility with more games that haven't been backported, and access to Relapse, which is proving to be an exceptionally stable kernel exploit when used in conjunction with YouTube as the userland exploit.

This does violate the "never update" mantra. But right now you're not losing anything by updating to it from 4.03. Maybe someone will come up with something cool and useful just for low firmwares in the future? Then again, we said the same thing about the PS4, and that has yet to happen even after 13 years.
 
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In practice, no. Only the oldest games work on that firmware. And backports for newer games stop at FW 4.xx, as you correctly note.
The answer here is also no. Kits haven't been created for a firmware that low, in part because that firmware is missing so many developer features exposed in newer firmwares. Despite being an evolution of the PS4 OS, it's a bit raw in some respects.
At a minimum, you would need to go to FW 4.00 to play games (FW 4.03 being one of the "golden" firmwares). What you gain is the ability to play backported games, and the ability to install a M.2 SSD when you eventually fill up your PS5 with games. What you lose is maybe the ability to dump keys in the future, but that is such a wishy-washy prospect right now that there is no telling when that may come or if it would let you (as an end-user) do anything useful.

But, if all you want to do is play games, then I personally think you should aim even higher. 7.61 is quite nice. It gets you a ton of quality-of-life features from newer firmwares, compatibility with more games that haven't been backported, and access to Relapse, which is proving to be an exceptionally stable kernel exploit when used in conjunction with YouTube as the userland exploit.

This does violate the "never update" mantra. But right now you're not losing anything by updating to it from 4.03. Maybe someone will come up with something cool and useful just for low firmwares in the future? Then again, we said the same thing about the PS4, and that has yet to happen even after 13 years.

First of all, thank you very much for the time you've taken to answer my questions. You've been a huge help and have cleared up the situation perfectly. It's a pleasure to receive such detailed responses.

I'll follow your advice and upgrade to version 4.03. Upgrading to a 7.xx still makes me a bit nervous. I'm going to look for information on how to install a specific firmware.

Thanks again, so much, for your help.
 
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First of all, thank you very much for the time you've taken to answer my questions. You've been a huge help and have cleared up the situation perfectly. It's a pleasure to receive such detailed responses.
Glad to be of help.👍

I'm going to look for information on how to install a specific firmware.
You can grab the specific firmware update you want from here.

As for the installation process:
  • Turn off your PS5 console.
  • Using a PC or Mac, create a folder named "PS5" on a USB drive formatted as FAT32 or exFAT. Inside that folder, create another folder named "UPDATE".
  • Download the PS5 console update file below and save it in the "UPDATE" folder. Save the file as "PS5UPDATE.PUP".
  • Plug the USB drive containing the file into your PS5 console.
  • Start your PS5 console in Safe Mode: press and hold the power button, releasing after the second beep.
  • Select Update System Software.
  • Select Update from USB Storage Device > OK.
 
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Many thanks for creating this forum thread. I've recently taken my disc-edition PS5 out of the closet. It's on firmware 3.00 with a UMTX2 jailbreak. Back when I first tried it, I tested loading PS4 backups and put it away, waiting for a better time that might have finally arrived.

Quick questions:
  1. Can you play PS5 backups on this firmware? From what I've seen, it's necessary to use backports, and almost all of them require firmware 4.x or higher.
  2. If not, is there any way to self create backports for 3.xx firmwares?
  3. What firmware do you recommend using, and what would I lose/gain compared to 3.xx?
Thanks in advance for your help
I've also recently updated from 3.20 to 4.03 and found it to be a massive improvement in terms of compatibility. I couldn't get most homebrew apps, like Prospero Store, running properly on 3.20.

The jailbreak itself also runs heaps more smoothly on my particular console. I'm now just using WebAutoKit, KStuff, ShadowMount and NanoDNS, and the whole process is almost seamless.

However, I'm still running into quite a few games that refuse to work despite supposedly being backported to 4.xx.

It's pretty much trial and error at this point. Post some log dumps, hope someone figures out what's going wrong, and maybe a fix eventually comes along.

Interestingly, it doesn't necessarily seem to matter how new the game is. Wolverine and 007 run perfectly fine, while Final Fantasy XVI and Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii just end up on a black screen.

So overall, 4.03 has been a worthwhile upgrade, but game compatibility is still a bit of a lottery for me.
 
I've also recently updated from 3.20 to 4.03 and found it to be a massive improvement in terms of compatibility. I couldn't get most homebrew apps, like Prospero Store, running properly on 3.20.

The jailbreak itself also runs heaps more smoothly on my particular console. I'm now just using WebAutoKit, KStuff, ShadowMount and NanoDNS, and the whole process is almost seamless.

However, I'm still running into quite a few games that refuse to work despite supposedly being backported to 4.xx.

It's pretty much trial and error at this point. Post some log dumps, hope someone figures out what's going wrong, and maybe a fix eventually comes along.

Interestingly, it doesn't necessarily seem to matter how new the game is. Wolverine and 007 run perfectly fine, while Final Fantasy XVI and Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii just end up on a black screen.

So overall, 4.03 has been a worthwhile upgrade, but game compatibility is still a bit of a lottery for me.

Thanks for the reply... truth is I still haven't taken the plunge... I've downloaded the 4.03 update, but seeing the recent drama between SaudiDos and zecoxao, I don't know whether to wait in case something interesting comes out of the dispute that has an impact on PS5...
 
I'm on 11.60 and I want to rip my disc games (both PS4 and PS5) to install them onto my PS5. Is there a way to do this all on-device or do I have to use a PC tool to repack the file folder dump from ps5-app-dumper? Similarly, once I have it installed as a pkg, I can't get updates anymore right? Would it be better to wait til 13.60 gets fpkg support so I can get the newer stuff?

I still have not managed yet to get a dump from ps5-app-dumper to work correctly. Every time I boot one, it just presents me with an error screen.
 
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I'm on 11.60 and I want to rip my disc games (both PS4 and PS5) to install them onto my PS5. Is there a way to do this all on-device or do I have to use a PC tool to repack the file folder dump from ps5-app-dumper? Similarly, once I have it installed as a pkg, I can't get updates anymore right? Would it be better to wait til 13.60 gets fpkg support so I can get the newer stuff?

I still have not managed yet to get a dump from ps5-app-dumper to work correctly. Every time I boot one, it just presents me with an error screen.
In principle, it is possible to dump and repack a PS5 game all on the console. There are a couple of different homebrew applications that offer that feature. I can't speak as to how well they work, though.

As for updates, correct. You cannot install legit updates on a fPKG game. The firmware version you are on won't change that. Though it will allow you to dump newer games/patches, if that's your thing.
 

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