US adding firing squads, electrocution and gassing to federal execution methods

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A lot of countries have less crime because they have a smaller population and a different way of thinking. I don't speak for God so you can ask him questions yourself if you're ever going to be lucky enough to meet him.

As for your first sentence, one could equally say a lot of countries that do have the death sentence have far less crimes because they use it without keeping criminals in prison for decades before executing them.
Got some sources for this claim?
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The justice system has the answers and so does the law. The law is based on the teachings of the Bible and the roots of the USA justice system in based on Bible teachings
Oh... Nevermind...
 
was only a few decades ago that it was seen as a mental illness in USA - it still is in many parts of the world and punishable by death.
I don't know why but you are proving my exact point by the way. These kinds of methods can and have been used to get rid of minority groups.

That the death penalty can and will be abused. So it is better to not provide that lever at all.

I already made my case that the current political party is trying (and has) to make a felony to be the wrong "gender"
 
I don't know why but you are proving my exact point by the way. These kinds of methods can and have been used to get rid of minority groups.

That the death penalty can and will be abused. So it is better to not provide that lever at all.

I already made my case that the current political party is trying (and has) to make a felony to be the wrong "gender"

Let us not forget, innocent people have been convicted.

You can't release a wrongly convicted man when he's fucking dead.
 
Let us not forget, innocent people have been convicted.

You can't release a wrongly convicted man when he's fucking dead.
"What a relief that this drowned woman was in fact not a witch."
 
What punishment would you give to the baddest people on earth? For someone that's evil and done horrific things, the bible calls for an eye for an eye (Book of Exodus 21:23–27).

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 21&version=KJV

Maybe if these evil people didn't commit the crimes they did, then there would be no need for justice, but they did and people deserve justice, so do the victims.

The reason USA has so much crime is because people aren't being punished for the crimes they commited. They will be judged at some point though and if not in this life then they will be at the end of their lifes. Nobody beats the reaper and nobody escapes the justice of God.
I don't care what the Bible has to say about any issue. I do believe the worst people should be punished; however, a firing squad is something we should not be returning to. No matter how monstrous a person is, they shouldn't be killed in such a brutal manner. Meeting brutality with brutality helps no one. It didn't stop crime in the past, and it won't change things now.

If you believe god is going to judge people, then there should be no reason to make their passing as inhuman as they were in life. If anything, it only leaves those who use brutality to be guilty in their afterlife. Even if I don't personally care about the judgement of the war god, I still think those who do care, shouldn't be meeting evil with evil.
 
In general most people never face equal retribution for the crimes they commited. Only the worst of the worst ever face execution and looking at the stats there's lots of victims that never see any justice and a lot of criminals that are getting away with their crimes.
You came in here quoting Bible verses and saying nobody avoids the justice of god. If you TRULY believed that, you wouldn't care about how the person died in this life. Just get rid of them asap. Eternal torture would be more than anything we could do here.

So what you're really asking for is for them to feel pain in this life for you to feel better.
 
Without doubt, it would be stopped when next democrat president take the office.

There are only 3 people on federal death penalty and it is very hard to impose the death penalty unless it is worst of the worst crime like terrorist attack. New inmate put on death row wouldn't be executed for many years, even after Trump is gone and next democrat president could opt to commute the death penalty to life imprisonment.
 
a firing squad is something we should not be returning to. No matter how monstrous a person is, they shouldn't be killed in such a brutal manner.

It's only "brutal" to the observer, but then again bearing witness to any death can be brutal. But given a choice between electrocution, hanging, funky fatal chemicals being fed intravenously, or being shot in the head .... I'll take being shot in the head tyvm. Dead before I know it or feel a thing, that's about as humane as it can be done. It's just the "gun" thing that's making you think this would be more brutal than any of the other methods. But as deaths go, instantaneous brain kablooey is about as good as it gets.

That said, I oppose the death penalty in all cases because I think for the offenders that merit it, it's too easy of an out.
 
Amazing how some of the most devout Christians are some of the biggest hypocrites in life.


Pertaining to the subject at hand, can't say I am surprised.

Will that change anything though? No. Most shooters already shoot themselves for an out after shooting at others.
 
It's only "brutal" to the observer, but then again bearing witness to any death can be brutal. But given a choice between electrocution, hanging, funky fatal chemicals being fed intravenously, or being shot in the head .... I'll take being shot in the head tyvm. Dead before I know it or feel a thing, that's about as humane as it can be done. It's just the "gun" thing that's making you think this would be more brutal than any of the other methods. But as deaths go, instantaneous brain kablooey is about as good as it gets.

That said, I oppose the death penalty in all cases because I think for the offenders that merit it, it's too easy of an out.
I honestly find the death penalty to be brutal, which is why I have complicated feelings toward it. Personally, I am not one to get into my views here because I would be spending hours splitting hairs. That said, I think someone being put to sleep before having their heart shut down is better than the last thing someone hearing is guns being shot before going black. This is coming from someone who had my heart stop before; it was actually quite peaceful compared to the situation I was in beforehand.
 
I honestly find the death penalty to be brutal, which is why I have complicated feelings toward it. Personally, I am not one to get into my views here because I would be spending hours splitting hairs. That said, I think someone being put to sleep before having their heart shut down is better than the last thing someone hearing is guns being shot before going black. This is coming from someone who had my heart stop before; it was actually quite peaceful compared to the situation I was in beforehand.


FWIW pretty sure you'd never hear the gunshot, or feel anything at all.

But I'm not advocating for any form of execution, as I explained above. My point was only that getting fatally shot in the head might be the quickest, most painless death possible. Your brain is liquified and mush before the neurons have a chance to say ouch.

If they start with the feet and work up though, well nevermind.
 
If they start with the feet and work up though, well nevermind.
That's one of the things that troubles me. Would the ones in charge of the execution be humane about what they are doing? Maybe if they needed quick action in a situation they are losing control over, but in an organized one where they have complete control....
 
Meanwhile United states law makers trying speed run making trans people *existing* a felony. Can't possibly imagine at allllll that they would say that it be punishable by death.

I mean ffs. In some states being trans and using the wrong bathroom has a higher level of punishment than fucking publically unirating.

So no. Idc. Let them rot in jail if they are that bad.
Because it gives recourse to those who are actually punished unfairly. At least a chance.
Ok so please explain this :

https://reduxx.info/turkiye-non-bin...teacher-at-secondary-school-in-kahramanmaras/

https://reduxx.info/transgender-man...-taking-him-to-cuba-for-sex-change-surgeries/
 
No, I don't have to. Because your argument is ridiculous trying to equate all trans people being criminals so therefore fucking death penalty. Against my much more reasonable argument, of criticizing that somehow, BEING trans and using the bathroom, is somehow more of a punishment, than fucking public urination.

Comeback when you don't attempt a pointless gotcha from a website nobody has heard of.
 
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First article is taking g a tragic event in Turkey and adding an ideological spin that isn't proven. The Turkish language doesn't use pronouns as well, which makes the claim more suspect.

The 2nd article is true about the kidnapping, but adds more than likely fake sensationalism about wanting to give the kid a sex change. It's also already illegal to have that done in Cuba. Once again, making it a dubious claim.


So the basic explanation that you asked for is: It's a crap website that takes real life tragedies and adds false information to get people angry.
 
There was something i couldn't quite figure out. Most states now don't have a death penalty. But this thing is a federal one. Does that mean it overrides the restrictions, or is it more like "if you choose to opt in on the death sentence at one point, here are some methods"?

It's only "brutal" to the observer, but then again bearing witness to any death can be brutal. But given a choice between electrocution, hanging, funky fatal chemicals being fed intravenously, or being shot in the head .... I'll take being shot in the head tyvm. Dead before I know it or feel a thing, that's about as humane as it can be done. It's just the "gun" thing that's making you think this would be more brutal than any of the other methods. But as deaths go, instantaneous brain kablooey is about as good as it gets.

That said, I oppose the death penalty in all cases because I think for the offenders that merit it, it's too easy of an out.
Hmm... Though i disagree with the death penalty itself, I must concede that in terms of execution, faster is better. The current methods of injection and electrocution sound like they're used to not shock the audience, but that isn't (or shouldn't be) the point.
 
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First article is taking g a tragic event in Turkey and adding an ideological spin that isn't proven. The Turkish language doesn't use pronouns as well, which makes the claim more suspect.

The 2nd article is true about the kidnapping, but adds more than likely fake sensationalism about wanting to give the kid a sex change. It's also already illegal to have that done in Cuba. Once again, making it a dubious claim.


So the basic explanation that you asked for is: It's a crap website that takes real life tragedies and adds false information to get people angry.
Thanks for explain it titan.To the other user @Reualed you put words i didnt say it. I was asking a explanation and view your opinion about those news. For the record those news dont see it from other websites and doesnt want to talk it.

Dont get it wrong i dont label all trans are criminals. They are good ones and bad transgender people.
 

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